A continuation of my evaluation of Salem!

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30 Jul 2005, 2:52 am

1)...The Question?

2)...Statements by Ghosthunter!

Getting to Salem wrote:
To get to Salem, Massachussetes you have to
catch a train. It is not a #'d train, by a train
by direction, and can be on any track number
upon it's arrival. It is as irregularly organized
as the bus and trolly, underground services!

When you catch the train, the first thing
you will notice is the age of the train.
The trains are a ghostly, and ancient as
the newest building in Boston. The tracks
are rickety and you would expect pilgrims
(provided they had trains) to pop out the the
tunnels to board the train.

It seems, and a good thing, Boston doesn't
want to lose it's architecual, and historical
past. This is the ghostly-energie charm of the
place.

Now...Back on the train!
You take it on the North Station, and expect
to hear messages of "report any strange
activities". It reminds me of a old 50's
UFO-brainwashing movie! Then the signs
say "no bags allowed, ect...", like I am suppose
to go naked! "Hi-I am naked! now can I come
aboard???????, as I am carried off to the lunybin.

There are a series of stops that constitute 30
minutes. First, you board the 40's single deck
trains. and off you go into the past..........

"Ticccckkkkeetttts"....pause he say's, "Ticckkkeeettts"
and he collect $3.75 for Salem and puts it in
a leather side sachel. Not the newby ones, but
old-style one in black&white movies.

And the train progresses. The 30's B&W movies
of 1800's is sooo! alive! here. It is 3:15pm when
I start.....it is 3:45pm when I arrive to Salem.
Here are the cities(smaller antique villages like
Boston).....


•North station
•Chelsea
•Riverworks
•Lynn
•Swampscott
•salem


arriving to $salem wrote:
You know arrive. What you are expecting is
a 30's B&W movie of Salem. But no! Whatttt?
it is a blend of modern(designed as old to confuse
the autistic folk) and ollllldddddd!! Let's say 1630's+.

YOung is 1700's-1800's. Geez! I feel so Embryo here,
and "yo-where are you spermo!-so I can catch up
with these buildings". It is really old, but if your
autistic and mind-blind.

OoooopS! It is 9pm and they are closing!

Pleww! as tongue sticks out at Boston!

PPPLLLLLEEEEEWWWWW! I will continue this later,
as long as I find internet access!

Bye!


Hi, I am in s**thole, hell, NY, NY and continue
my salem adventure data! wrote:

I am now in NY, NY at 3:31am and waiting for my
5:45am bus!


Here is the continuation of Salem evaluation.....


Salem continued wrote:
I get off the train eventually to get a feast of
mass marketing. This place is a haven, and
perhaps the few havens for New Agers to hang
out and have a capitolizing income since 1990
when they died off as stores in most areas.


navigating Salem and Autism wrote:
It is easier to navigate Salem if your autist. So
many new age and ?Hmmmmm wiccan stores.

There were a few good ones.

The grid pathing is present here. for $1 you get
a useful map, for free you get the redline,
"for autistics" map. I found it very helpful!


The train and roads wrote:
The train stops at Washington & Bridge. you
go down Washington for 2 blocks and are seeing
old and new blends of shops. The red line
autistic map tour begins here.

You start seeing magic shops, food places
and the only place you can find more Lwelllyn
books in one square mile. Every store
had Weiser & Lwellyn books on magic, wicca
and witchcraft(Muggle-history).

You are walking on Essex by the 3rd block
down Washington, and start seeing ghosthunting
tours($13 for evening tours)...."Spellbound Museum"
is the one I think? The overwhelming influence of
post-80's newage stores overwhelm anyone's senses
so much only Lwllelyn can blush in embarrasment
by some of it's hocky venders.


not-so-hokey vendors wrote:
By the time you pass old and numerous churches
and vending buildings you start hitting real
stuff!
I am a creature of instinct and enviremental and
my energy sense was tingling in some of them
and my gold pentacle was in overload, as was
I, but not in a bad way, but a "it is good it is still
intact" feeling! Most of the tingling ones were
in the waterfront.


waterfront tingles wrote:
nu aeon

Cabot's(salem's official witch) one gave me sincere
tingles! and had me shake off a few nasty vibes from
the staff(I am a bug eye'd alien even to these folks)
"The Cat, The Crow, and the Crown, Inc." is Cabots
main digs. Be cautious there!! !! !! !!


I am experienced enough to know bad vibed and
spirit of a space attachments. Only the well versed
would survive it's energy. Twice for me since
the smaller stores drained most of my shielding.

Nu Aeon was nearby, and not as a cautious space.
Be wary if your a novice, These places are
"Ooooh! come in and look at our pretty trinkets."
Zaapppp! we got ya tagged, and you didn't know
it!

Other wise the stores were a bit serious, non-
threatning to the novice in sand traps.

Here's a example:
At Cabots store, the clerk was a 2nd rank priestess
and a guardian of a person was eyeing me.

Hmmmm? Seen that, done that!

I am way out of practice in this area, but know
my flavors of energies and practice on deciphering
these each day.


When I am not so bus annoyed I can write more on
this!

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter



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30 Jul 2005, 5:26 am

It sounds like you were in your element in Salem, Ghosthunter.

I've only been able to visit once, it wasn't the best trip as we went at night after everything had closed.

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I am a creature of instinct and enviremental and
my energy sense was tingling in some of them
and my gold pentacle was in overload, as was
I, but not in a bad way, but a "it is good it is still
intact" feeling! Most of the tingling ones were
in the waterfront.


I find it interesting that you mentioned this, as during my trip, my friends and I were looking for something to do, when all the shops were closed. We headed to the waterfront, but they started to continue out onto a very long dock, and I felt dark tingling pressure. I refused to go with them and they fortunately turned around and came back, rather than continuing forward.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to meet up with you, Ghosthunter, I would have liked to visit this place with you if I could have. I'm glad it was better than Boston for you, though.



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It sounds like you were in your element in Salem, Ghosthunter.

I've only been able to visit once, it wasn't the best trip as we went at night after everything had closed.

Quote:
I am a creature of instinct and enviremental and
my energy sense was tingling in some of them
and my gold pentacle was in overload, as was
I, but not in a bad way, but a "it is good it is still
intact" feeling! Most of the tingling ones were
in the waterfront.


I find it interesting that you mentioned this, as during my trip, my friends and I were looking for something to do, when all the shops were closed. We headed to the waterfront, but they started to continue out onto a very long dock, and I felt dark tingling pressure. I refused to go with them and they fortunately turned around and came back, rather than continuing forward.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to meet up with you, Ghosthunter, I would have liked to visit this place with you if I could have. I'm glad it was better than Boston for you, though.
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It amazes me how one who is sensitive to
these things can say X, and another sensitive
one can confirm, though from a indirect view.

I like this. I felt it there and so did you. I didn't
see pictures! I felt the tingle and my G.P.Ring
was in overload as well! Hmmm? What are
your clues to these phenomenons?

sincerely,
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31 Jul 2005, 3:12 pm

salem = witch overload :(

having said which (no pun intended), laurie cabot is one of the few un-mental ones, as far as i can see.

as for explaining things... well i am a second degree high priestess, and i'll be buggered if i can! it's said it gets harder to explain as you progress further into the craft - well i can vouch for that... 8O



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31 Jul 2005, 6:05 pm

vetivert wrote:
salem = witch overload :(

having said which (no pun intended), laurie cabot is one of the few un-mental ones, as far as i can see.


I don't know anything about Laurie Cabot, so I won't comment on that. One of the things that you should know though, is that there were many other witchtrials in New England as well around the same era, particularly in what is now Maine.(Which actually used to be Massachussetts until 1821 when it seceeded)

If you were ever to make it over here and go to New England, you would be pleasantly surprised at amount of people who practice the Old Ways in that part of the country.

That being said, the general consensus amongst those people is:

Salem=TOURIST TRAP!

Sure, It's worth seeing, but it's really much ado about nothing. Aside from the famous witchtrials that happened there, It's more or less another small Northern New England Port.



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31 Jul 2005, 9:33 pm

damn. saw this and thought you meant Salem, Oregon. Come out here sometime, please!



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salem = witch overload

having said which (no pun intended), laurie cabot is one of the few un-mental ones, as far as i can see.

as for explaining things... well i am a second degree high priestess, and i'll be buggered if i can! it's said it gets harder to explain as you progress further into the craft - well i can vouch for that...


First of all...I am not surprised that you practice
wicca! And if you said you didn't I would of had
been disappointed!

Second of all...How long did it take to reach the 2nd
degree?

Third of all...What branch of wicca do you practice?

Sincerely,
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dam*. saw this and thought you meant Salem, Oregon. Come out here sometime, please!


Right now I am in Minnesota and don't
see myself going that direction anytime
soon.

It is nice to know that I have made some
good impressions here!

And the soon as I get more settled into
a internet setup, I will start pondering
the S.S.Wrongplanet!

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter



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01 Aug 2005, 4:01 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:
Second of all...How long did it take to reach the 2nd
degree?

Third of all...What branch of wicca do you practice?


it took me two years (more or less exactly) from first to second (jan 2000 - feb 2002), which is pretty quick, apparently (mine was a proper, hardcore taining coven, none of these namby-pamby "we'll give you second cos you haven't actually stabbed anyone accidentally with your athame yet" idiots. and we don't do new age). it was bloody hard work, i can tell you.

the branch my coven is in (although we've sort of disbanded) is a mixture of alexandrian, gardnerian, tradional and hereditary, although, quite frankly, wicca as is only came into existence in the 1950s, so all this nonsense about trad and hereditary is... well, nonsense. (read ronald huttons "triumph of the moon". a great read, a great bloke, who just happens to be a good friend of mine).

my coven is a daughter coven of vivianne and chris crowley, if that means anything to you (i.e., my HP and HPS were initiated by them into their coven).

does any of that make sense? :)



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Ghosthunter wrote:
Second of all...How long did it take to reach the 2nd
degree?

Third of all...What branch of wicca do you practice?



vetivert wrote:
it took me two years (more or less exactly) from first to second (jan 2000 - feb 2002), which is pretty quick, apparently (mine was a proper, hardcore taining coven,


How would you describe hardcore training?
From my experiences in self and watching
others.....

1)...The newagers softened up trainings
2)...Lllewelyn Books softened up wisdom
for commercialism(hence forth-easy to use
wicca)
3)...The instincts need training equally as
the mind, and physical representations!
This is my view of my way of training others.
I may be philosophically wicca now, but
when I was younger, I was, and still am
a soloist...due to even the average wiccan
finds me toooo! strange!

vetivert wrote:
none of these namby-pamby "we'll give you second cos you haven't actually stabbed anyone accidentally with your athame yet" idiots. and we don't do new age). it was bloody hard work, i can tell you.


I agree, the training process is hard work
and focus! If the teacher can learn from
the student as well, then that is always a
added bonus.

vetivert wrote:
the branch my coven is in (although we've sort of disbanded) is a mixture of alexandrian, gardnerian, tradional and hereditary, although, quite frankly, wicca as is only came into existence in the 1950s, so all this nonsense about trad and hereditary is... well, nonsense. (read ronald huttons "triumph of the moon". a great read, a great bloke, who just happens to be a good friend of mine).


And this newage, combined with Lllewelyn
publishers cemented the commercial image.

I do have respect for Gardnerianian's founder.
He had the guts to bring out to the open this
wonderful topic of mystery and enigma!

vetivert wrote:
my coven is a daughter coven of vivianne and chris crowley, if that means anything to you (i.e., my HP and HPS were initiated by them into their coven).


If I read this right....your HighP and HighPS?
were initiated by vivianne(a person?) and crowley
(a person), not book tradition?

vetivert wrote:
does any of that make sense?

Yes, It amazes me how individualized and named
persons are associated with initialiazation.

I personally think spirit of God/Goddess guides
us all and formality is just that formality.
I hope I didn't offend you?

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