Special diet to help lessen symptoms?

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jade10025
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09 Oct 2007, 2:00 pm

I was reciently tested for food allergies, and had to go through an elimination diet. I realized that most of my Aspie symptoms lessened significantly, and though i found some foods, like dairy and corn, that will put me in anaflaxis(sp sorry!), most, like sugar, soy, food coloring, carmel color, etc, give me mental/emotional symptoms, like anxiety, irritability, impatience, easily overwhelmed, obsessiveness, obssessive talking, etc. Later i read an artical in a natural medicine magazine talking about how gluted and casin, proteins from wheat and dairy, arent absorbed properly in patients with Autism Spectrum disorders and how eliminating them from diet made drastic improvements in quality of life for the patients in the study. has anyone else heard about reaserch on this or experienced help from this kind of diet?



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09 Oct 2007, 2:05 pm

In some cases of high-function autism and asperger's syndrome, gluten and cassein works as drug, which may cause the person to become impatient, anxious and all the other stuff that you mentioned. This is only the case of some people, however. I don't notice any difference when I don't eat gluten or cassein (for example on vacations).



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09 Oct 2007, 2:44 pm

Pseudoscientific garbage. Waste of time.



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09 Oct 2007, 2:47 pm

Joybob wrote:
Pseudoscientific garbage. Waste of time.


It has been documented that a special diet may help in some cases of autism.



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09 Oct 2007, 2:47 pm

Maybe I'd better stay away from those diets.


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09 Oct 2007, 3:31 pm

It helps for me and I didn't even start to eat different for that reason. It was just a very nice side effect. I tried the raw food diet which is pretty good and I was running everyday, so excercise really helps.



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09 Oct 2007, 3:48 pm

Reodor_Felgen wrote:
In some cases of high-function autism and asperger's syndrome, gluten and cassein works as drug, which may cause the person to become impatient, anxious and all the other stuff that you mentioned. This is only the case of some people, however. I don't notice any difference when I don't eat gluten or cassein (for example on vacations).

gluten and cassein can have the same effect on any functioning level of autism,tends to have best results with lf.


it's a restricted and difficult diet and it's really something that should be started from an early age,before the autie,or aspie can get into a strict routine with foods,am would not do it due to having an extremely restricted diet already.

jade10025,
luke Jackson wrote a book about the diet,not sure how good it is though.



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09 Oct 2007, 3:51 pm

There was long discussion of this on this forum just 5 days ago.
I think it's probably near the bottom of page 2, called " Gluten free Diets" . ( bottom of page 3 already!!)

I have tried it out extensively and found that it definitely makes a difference.

There is plenty of literature about it and websites. My favourite clear and concise info site is at " foodallergycure" which is Allergy International.

Good luck.



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09 Oct 2007, 5:32 pm

thanks for the replies! ill look up that discussion and the book. :D



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09 Oct 2007, 5:45 pm

jade10025 wrote:
... Later i read an artical in a natural medicine magazine talking about how gluted and casin, proteins from wheat and dairy, arent absorbed properly in patients with Autism Spectrum disorders and how eliminating them from diet made drastic improvements in quality of life for the patients in the study. has anyone else heard about reaserch on this or experienced help from this kind of diet?


There is no such relation found, any statements that claim that gluten and casein aren't properly processed by autistic people are pseudoscience. But autistic people with food allergies could be expected to show an increase in autistic symptoms caused by the effects of the allergic reaction.

The casein-thing was only tested on rats and rats can't be autistic, btw....



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09 Oct 2007, 6:39 pm

I find it offensive that you state that the guten Asperger symptom link is pseudoscience. What I have experienced with a gluten and casein free diet in the past and now is nothing short of a miracle in my opinion. Thousands of other parents and adults with AS would agree with me.



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09 Oct 2007, 7:37 pm

Strangely, gluten doesnt seem to affect me, but dairy and other foods are a night and day difference. For the forst time in my life I have friends, I can express myself and even a little about how I feel. I have less anxiety attacks, less blank stares, and understand people and social situations better, though i'm still way off on another planet in certain situations. I know it not the answer for everyone, but it is a serious help for me.



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09 Oct 2007, 7:50 pm

If I were to cut gluten and cassein out of my diet, I'd not have much to eat at all. Sorry, I'd rather have a few of my symptoms than live a life eating food I don't particularly like. That would make me even more depressed. I like eating too much.


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09 Oct 2007, 7:57 pm

There is some evidence that food allergies (especially to gluten) are more common in people with ASD. There is also evidence that the antibodies to these proteins also tend to attack nerve tissue.

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Nutr Neurosci. 2004 Jun;7(3):151-61.
Immune response to dietary proteins, gliadin and cerebellar peptides in children with autism.
Vojdani A, O'Bryan T, Green JA, Mccandless J, Woeller KN, Vojdani E, Nourian AA, Cooper EL.

Section of Neuroimmunology, Immunosciences Lab., Inc., 8693 Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 200, Beverly Hills, California 90211, USA. drari@msn.com

The mechanisms behind autoimmune reaction to nervous system antigens in autism are not understood. We assessed the reactivity of sera from 50 autism patients and 50 healthy controls to specific peptides from gliadin and the cerebellum. A significant percentage of autism patients showed elevations in antibodies against gliadin and cerebellar peptides simultaneously. For examining cross-reaction between dietary proteins and cerebellar antigens, antibodies were prepared in rabbits, and binding of rabbit anti-gliadin, anti-cerebellar peptides, anti-MBP, anti-milk, anti-egg, anti-soy and anti-corn to either gliadin- or cerebellar-antigen-coated wells was measured. In comparison to anti-gliadin peptide binding to gliadin peptide at 100%, the reaction of anti-cerebellar peptide to gliadin peptide was 22%, whereas the binding of anti-myelin basic protein (MBP), anti-milk, anti-egg and anti-soy to gliadin was less than 10%. Further examination of rabbit anti-gliadin (EQVPLVQQ) and anti-cerebellar (EDVPLLED) 8 amino acid (AA) peptides with human serum albumin (HSA) and an unrelated peptide showed no binding, but the reaction of these antibodies with both the cerebellar and gliadin peptides was greater than 60%. This cross-reaction was further confirmed by DOT-immunoblot and inhibition studies. We conclude that a subgroup of patients with autism produce antibodies against Purkinje cells and gliadin peptides, which may be responsible for some of the neurological symptoms in autism.



It isn't a cure in the sense of first you have an infection, then you take the medicine, then the disease vanishes. Not everyone benefits, it can't reverse all the symptoms. But some people do benefit a good deal.

Given the fact that it is drug free, it is surprising that more people don't try it.



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09 Oct 2007, 8:03 pm

Here is a study from the Cochrane review - generally considered one of the best reviews of the medical literature. They found that only one human study was good enough to consider in their framework, and that it was small. That study did find a reduction in autistic traits (1 of 4 areas observed). On the 3 others, no improvement was found, which could have been a statistical effect. Bottom line? Maybe it helps, and more research is needed.

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1: Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2004;(2):CD003498.Click here to read Links
Gluten- and casein-free diets for autistic spectrum disorder.
Millward C, Ferriter M, Calver S, Connell-Jones G.

BACKGROUND: It has been suggested that peptides from gluten and casein may have a role in the origins of autism and that the physiology and psychology of autism might be explained by excessive opioid activity linked to these peptides. Research has reported abnormal levels of peptides in the urine and cerebrospinal fluid of persons with autism. If this is the case, diets free of gluten and /or casein should reduce the symptoms associated with autism. OBJECTIVES: To determine the efficacy of gluten- and/or casein- free diets as an intervention to improve behaviour, cognitive and social functioning in individuals with autism. SEARCH STRATEGY: Electronic searching of abstracts from the Cochrane Library (Issue 3, 2003), PsycINFO (1971- May 2003), EMBASE (1974- May 2003), CINAHL (1982- May 2003), MEDLINE (1986- May 2003), ERIC (1965-2003), LILACS (to 2003) and the specialist register of the Cochrane Complementary Medicine Field (January 2004). Review bibliographies were also examined to identify potential trials. SELECTION CRITERIA: All randomised controlled trials involving programmes which eliminated gluten, casein or both gluten and casein from the diets of individuals diagnosed with autistic spectrum disorder. DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS: Abstracts of studies identified in searches of electronic databases were read and assessed to determine whether they might meet the inclusion criteria. The authors independently selected the relevant studies from the reports identified in this way. As only one trial fitted the inclusion criteria, no meta-analysis is currently possible and data are presented in narrative form. MAIN RESULTS: The one trial included reported results on four outcomes. Unsurprisingly in such a small-scale study, the results for three of these outcomes (cognitive skills, linguistic ability and motor ability) had wide confidence intervals that spanned the line of nil effect. However, the fourth outcome, reduction in autistic traits, reported a significant beneficial treatment effect for the combined gluten- and casein- free diet. REVIEWERS' CONCLUSIONS: This is an important area of investigation and large scale, good quality randomised controlled trials are needed.



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09 Oct 2007, 11:44 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:
If I were to cut gluten and cassein out of my diet, I'd not have much to eat at all. Sorry, I'd rather have a few of my symptoms than live a life eating food I don't particularly like. That would make me even more depressed. I like eating too much.

Actually, you'd be amazed at the variety of foods available on a GFCF diet.

joybob wrote:
Pseudoscientific garbage. Waste of time.

No, it's not.