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I think I broke the "Attack of the trolls" thread. I posted and now it won't load anymore.

Please feel free take out your frustration towards me on this matter, or you can just continue the discussion here.

This was my last post that broke it.

Curious as I am, I decided to take a look. EEEEEEEK!! ! Talk about focusing on the negatives and not the positives!! !! !! !! If ANYONE here thinks I even remotely focus on the negatives they need to read one post (any post) on that site and they will never think that way again.

I think I am traumatized.

Once my companion learned that I do not see her as being much different than the fridge (relating to the one post I looked at - "AS vs. Broken Leg") she didn't leave. I won't assume to know how it makes her feel, perhaps she will comment when she gets home. That site is rediculous. So what if I view people as objects, I do know the difference between a fridge and a person. I wouldn't hesitate to kick, hit, claw, or destroy the frisge if I felt the need to do so. But if I felt like hurting a person then it would CERTAINLY be something else, like the fridge, that I would assault.

From glancing at the first post, I have already come to the conclusion that it is an NT site for NTs and auts are in no way welcome there. Probably a place for frustrated wives that think they deserve mnore than they actually do to bash their husbands because they are incapable of being honst with them to their faces.

Last edited by DeepThought on 08 Aug 2005, 9:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

Whew... I was worried that I would break this one as well.

Don't worry, DeepThought, I was being torpedoed by Prometheus, so perhaps it isn't a bad thing the thread has died

I think we need a thread to dsiscuss the site in question though.

I agree. I promise not to troll again though, since some people are upset with me!! !!

I started one.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... highlight=

Original thread still works fine for me.

Yeah, it is working now.

DeepThought, you might want to look at the other site that I posted there on that thread as well for ASPar... that's another big threat and along the similiar lines only it's not just NT spouses bashing, it's NT children and all.

The link is -> http://www.aspar.klattu.com.au/index.htm

I'm on it Mish, but I will try to resist the temptation to troll, even though I want to

I have looked at a few things on that site and am not as profoundly affected by it as the other one. I guess one reason is that I KNOW I would not be able to give a child, or children the life that I would want them to have. A baby crying at certain times would just mke me crazy, not to mention the reactions I get when I see an infant eating. I know that as my kid(s) got older then I would be more tollerant, but I also know that I would try to get them to only do things that I am interested in.

I was adopted and no one really knows who my natural dad is, but my mom believes that my adoptive dad may have been asn Aspie. He was highly obsessive compulsive, was rarely interested in doing anything with anyone and was often very depressed. He rarely came out of my parent's bedroom. I remember him teaching me how to open doors and do certain things so that I wouldn't get my fingers dirty. He would throw adult tantrums at times as well. Before learning about AS, my mom thought he was highly anti-social. We don't know enough about his childhood to know for sure though.

I guess in a way I can see some of those posts on that site as simply being what I just did in this post, Relaying experiences. HOWEVER, I did see some posts that were very condemning of parents with AS and those I do not agree with. If my dad was the way he was (he's dead now) because of AS, then he certainly couldn't help it and I have no reason to blame anything on him. In fact I can understand why he did certain things because I do some of those things myself. I don't think that Aspie parents should be ridiculed because of it. I know it was hard on my mom and she did blame him for their marital problems for many years, but then when she learned about AS, that stopped. I also understand that it was probably very difficult for her, having to deal with an Aspie son (I was and still am EXTREMELY difficult) as well as some of those same traits in her husband for 17 years.

In another respect many of the people on the ASpar site are blaming AS for all of their problems. The problem with both of these sites mentioned in this thread is that all of the people on AS Partners (it seems) and many of them on ASpar seem to lack some things that we are accused of lacking: COMPASSION and FEELINGS. They assume that just because we live in our own internal world and are unable to connect with people in the manner in which NTs think is normal, that we also do not have emotions and are not deserving of being treated in the same manner in which they expect to be treated. I think that the people on these sites (perhaps not all of them) are ignorant and chose to be self-centered (whereas someone like me can't help it). I find it highly unlikely that any one of them (especially on AS Partners) would be able to love anyone, NT, or otherwise. They seem to me to lack hearts, to be cold cruel and wicked. They also seem to define the reason why many auts do not like NTs at all.

ASPar is part of the reason that leaves me at 'unofficial dx' vs getting an official diagnosis on my mental health records. The woman that runs the site claims to have 'Aspie traits' and had an AS mother and supposedly the first to coin the term, "Neurodiversity" but that website fails to represent that. Instead she is providing support like that other site for those NT partners that equate themselves to be suffering from the equivalent to "battered partner" syndrome no different than that delphi groups site, only big difference is they advocate Aspies make bad parents and the children would be better off with the NT parent which I find more harmful than a bunch of gripy women that have nothing better to do than find ways to blame their AS partners for things that honestly aren't logical and they just need a place to whine and vent like immature brats.

If I had kids and knew that I could possibly lose them because of a DX, I would be hesitant to get one myself. It isn't my DX that has made me determine that I could not have kids. It is me looking at the way that I am in a realistic manner. The way that I am is why I was DX'd. That may have nopt made sense either. I am tired. Brain fatigue... overdosing on Pink Floyd at 85 dB in the studio right now.

Darn Dyslexia.. I can't tell you how many times I have to edit posts because I type things like "psots."

It really hurts.

- Because I feel so much intolerance in that forum : you could write similar complaints about a partner from a different social/ educational/ religious/ what-you-want background;

- because those venomous lines remind me of situations when people told me very aggressive comments about my behaviour ... which I was not aware of (I was just here, trying to be invisible amoung others, trying to follow the main stream*).

I am sincerely, ethically against trolling. But after having read that... hold me back

Alexandra

* si un francophone passe par là, je voulais juste dire "me fondre dans la masse".

I am against it too, Alexandra, and some people here may be angry at me for attempting to troll, but I think you can see why I did it....

To troll or not to troll, that is the question

Currently I don't have the answer. I mean, as an individual, I may be tempted to use my informatic knowledge to revenge myself for what I consider to be a kind of bullying. As a member of a group so unfairly targeted by the delphi forum, I must think twice before trying anything that could worsen our image.

Maybe I should first have a good sleep before deciding what to do !

Alexandra