The film A bueatiful Mind

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In the film Russel Crowe is suppose to be playing somebody with schizophrenia but it is more like AS.

Quote from tv mag mastering Nash's gait, evasive way of looking.

And i know it is a stereotype but is playing somebody who is a maths genius.

Ah, but the more interesting thing is that he supposedly BEAT schizophrenia!

Can you BEAT the paranoid side of aspergers then? Well and truly? I sure frigging hope so.

It's obvious in the film he is playing somebody with an ASD, schizophrenics do not have an unusual gait, walk.

not watch the film as it's fake but have read wikipedia page on him,john nash seems aspergan-like,it's possible he was schizophrenic as well as being aspergan,but was also possible back then for people on the spectrum to be diagnosed as schizophrenic when they weren't.......why is there nothing about this on wikipedia page?

Hmm, I used to love that movie, but I haven't watched it since discovering AS. He does seem Aspie-like, though...I think I'll watch it right now for a refresher. Good point.

By odd coincidence, Prof. John F. Nash was at my university giving a lecture about some very specialist mathematical equation used in particle physics (to a audience made up of members of the general public - only 6 people in the audience understood him I am told), the same day I gave a talk about Asperger's. My talk was attended by counseling and student support workers from several colleges and universities across Ireland.

The psychologist that diagnosed me (an leading expert on ASDs) met Prof. John F. Nash in the corridor before my lecture, outside the lecture theater where I was going to speak, and she went up to and spoke to Prof. Nash briefly.

After meeting him, she told me that he definitely has a severe case of AS, evinced by a lack of eye and a monotone voice - that he just stared at the wall all the time. She also complained about how despite his obvious ASD... he has not been correctly diagnosed. OK he did have Schizophrenia for a long time, but he was before and is now an Aspie - the two conditions can co-occur but the DSM-IV does not accept this.

Many brilliant mathematicians have characteristics much found in those with AS.
I do like the film

Just been shown on BBC 2 here anyone catch the talk over at the credits about this

Beautiful Young Minds

Sunday 14 October
9:00pm - 10:30pm
BBC2 London & South East

Link to radiotimes:Beutiful Young Minds

A dual diagnosis of Asperger's and Schizophrenia is not allowed in the DSM-IV, but I don't know why. Maybe its money, people with Schizophrenia are proscribed expensive drugs to treat their condition but there are not drugs for AS - so maybe psychiatrists and drug companies worry that if Schizophrenic people are diagnosed with AS as well, they will not have to take drugs anymore = less profit.

Prof. Nash may not know about Asperger's. Though interestingly, I saw him speaking on TV recently. He spoke about how he discovered that people experience emotions, and that before he did not understand that emotions affected people. He went on to say that all his old work on Game Theory was wrong - because it did not take into account people feelings. Only an autistic person can have such problems with emotions like that - and then discover them at some point. By coincidence, I talked about not understanding peoples emotions in my youtube video (I had the same problem).

The essential features of Asperger's Disorder (DSM-IV) are:
Criterion A. Severe and sustained impairment in social interaction
Criterion B. The development of restricted, repetitive patterns of
behaviour, interests, and activities
Criterion C. The disturbance must cause clinically significant impairment
in social, occupational, or other important areas of
functioning.
Criterion D. In contrast to Autistic Disorder, there are no clinically
significant delays in language (eg: single words are used
by age 2 years, communicative phrases are used by age 3
years).
Criterion E. There are no clinically significant delays in cognitive
development or in the development of age-appropriate
self-help skills, adaptive behaviour (other than in social
interaction), and curiosity about the environment in
childhood.
Criterion F. The diagnosis is not given if the criteria are met
for any other specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or
for Schizophrenia.

It would be interesting to use an intelligent computer system to optically analyse the gate and postures of people, so as to help make diagnoses. They have one that is used to identify suspicious people at airports.

http://wjz.com/local/local_story_057114404.html

I'm sure someone has thought of this.

A lot of people believed he had autism (I remember reading it near the beginning of the book 'A Beautiful Mind' about the rumors he was autistic).

He seems to act just like me...

I have never seen the movie nor read the book but this intrigues me.

I have read that people with schizophrenia have visual and audio delusions. They see and hear people that are not there. The film on Nash depicted this. I have not heard that AS people have these delusions.

The thing is he wasn't just paranoid, he created a whole world. He imagined, and communicated with characters he imagined, and thought they were real. He definitely had schizophrenia, but maybe it paired with Asperger's.