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jazzguy
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12 Nov 2007, 8:28 pm

This is, really, a pretty unpleasant site. So much self pity. So much surrender. Not my style.
I wish you all loads and loads of happiness and fulfillment. It's as much there for you as it is for anyone else.


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12 Nov 2007, 8:31 pm

Whats unpleasant about helping others in need... or are you to good for that!

Maybe your just what is needed a good positive role model...


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12 Nov 2007, 9:13 pm

If you find something negative, you need positivity yourself, because you yourself are like them... when you're feeling better maybe you'll come back to help the more unfortunate people! :D



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12 Nov 2007, 9:54 pm

jazzguy is also the person who hates teenagers (he's 27, so not that far removed from being a teen), and thinks people are crazy to want to be parents... among other things.

His sort of negativity is different from everyone else's here perhaps.

If you take a look at the many different thread titles around here, you will find plenty that talk about...

- how depressed someone is
- how suicidal someone is
- how someone can't get out of the house because they _______.
- how no one understand them or hates them
- how the thread starter can see no future for themselves

it goes on and on.

On the surface, this can be seen as a bunch of overly depressed people who take no action in getting better.

But then... I don't see the harm in folks expressing their feelings at the moment they are experiencing them. And this is what I take many of these threads to be... needed expression.

I think when a person has NO place, and NO ONE to express their feelings to, their troubles can get much worse until they do commit suicide.

That's part of the value I see here... the vast majority of folks seem to be able to accept someone else's rants about how bad life is... then offer that person some helpful words.

This is the second thread of this type... the other one being the thread by Goatman - "Get out and do something"

I'm willing to say that there might be some people here who spend too much of their lives obsessed with how bad things are, and consequently take no action to help themselves... no matter what options they have or help that is offered to them.

I wouldn't be able to pick those people out because I only know you all from the posts here.

So I just go with the way I see things as posted above. :D

I appreciate the space to rant, myself, and the advice and support that come my way.
I'm no different than anyone else here... in that respect, I'm sure.


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12 Nov 2007, 10:14 pm

can't please all people all the time.

I'm not in love with the place but I stick around for tips and pointers.



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12 Nov 2007, 10:15 pm

Wsmac,
very agreed.

it is silly to assume everyone is going to be at the same stage in life,at the same acceptance and functioning level,to assume everyone has had perfect lives-if people posting about things that are causing them problems stops them from killing themselves or going further into depression then why not discuss the bad sides?
so what if people only see the negative side of their ASD,people need to work out these things for themselves and not be forced into thinking one way or another,it's not a dictatorship.

people can choose to look at a thread,or to press back and get out of it,there is nothing forcing anyone to read what they don't want.


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12 Nov 2007, 10:17 pm

why did he even say good bye?

just had to get in one last negative parting shot, eh?

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12 Nov 2007, 10:21 pm

digger1 wrote:
can't please all people all the time.

I'm not in love with the place but I stick around for tips and pointers.


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12 Nov 2007, 10:48 pm

Hm... Exactly where does one go to find a big group of cheerful, well-adjusted Aspies? Mars?

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12 Nov 2007, 10:51 pm

for all the intelligent conversation he claims to be looking for...

all remember from him is something about flapping neck skin

oh well


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12 Nov 2007, 10:52 pm

*sobs*
Oh noes! Don't leave us!


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12 Nov 2007, 11:26 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
*sobs*
Oh noes! Don't leave us!




don't worry, ten other holier than thou Aspies will take his place

holier than thou Aspies are a dime a dozen here, apparently


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13 Nov 2007, 1:40 am

Toodles.


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13 Nov 2007, 1:56 am

I think jazzguy perhaps wanted us to reassure him that there are a lot of people here who are fun and positive... he might come back anyway if he doesn't find something else! :D



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13 Nov 2007, 2:25 am

Honestly I take extended breaks from Wrong Planet too.

Sometimes it does seem overwhelming and glum. But When I'm troubled and need to see I'm not alone I come back . Althougth lately I tend to prefer AS diaries on You Tube.

This attitude is also why I don't want to try to go back to the local AS meeting. I went once and my level of functioning was so far removed I felt totally out of place.

No sarcasam here, but is it really a good idea to go to an AS group? I'm not going to learn better people skills from them and it will most likely depress me if I'm not already.

Please feel free to PM me with your view if you want.



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13 Nov 2007, 2:43 am

The biggest benefit I see for support groups and websites is just to see that you are not alone concerning the particular issue you are dealing with then.

For example... I've been dealing with gender issues for the last several years.
Lately, I've put all the transgender stuff on hold.
I went as far as I felt I needed in learning more about that issue and myself.
I saw therapists who specialized in that area and I joined (helped start) the local transgender group.

Once I got to a certain comfort level, I found I didn't need to think much about it all at the moment and I wound up here! :wink:

I recently went to a group meeting after having not been for several months. I am also sporting my old beard again, so I don't exactly fit the transgender role I was in before.
I worried that the other members of the group might not appreciate the fact that I seemed to no longer be on the same path they were still on.

The meeting went well and I felt comfortable there.
I won't be back at another one any time in the future I think. If I were, it would be to show support for the others.

So, I do not need the group for my own self right now.

Same sort of thing here... once you see no benefit from being here you take a break. Perhaps you never feel like coming back here.
At least it is here for everyone else who feels the need to participate.

I don't think creating a life around a support group is the best thing, because it ceases to be a support group then.


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