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hi

I thought i would share these enlightening links, about the positive, interesting traits about aspergers;

http://archives.betterhumans.com/Column ... fault.aspx

http://www.aspergia.com/index.htm

http://www.aspergia.com/lead.htm

Much of the hardships we endure, are not so much because we have "problems", but more so, because NTs don't understand us, or can't relate to us, and we can't relate to them. And since it's such an NT world, we feel like oddballs. But, I dont think we're oddballs. I think; we're just different. In fact, i think we're better! I'd rather be me, than a lemming, ya know?

http://www.myspace.com/mikegeorgemusic

YIKES! Some people can be real idiots, like teh following:

So he figures that communication is impossible without non verbal communication and, to be worth something, knowledge must be spread. If THAT wasn't enough, he says AS people are inferior because NT people can't understand them, and thus can't learn from them!

You might as well say humans are stupid and inferior to dogs because dogs can't understand them!! !! RIDICULOUS!

Your being delusional. You need to change. I posted this in another thread. I will copy and paste it.

DO NOT ACCEPT WHO YOU ARE. It is natural instinct to do this. Look at reality. You are NOT functional in this society. When I was in my teens I knew I was different but didn't know why. I went through the next 10 years of my life accepting who I was but was an outcast. I was miserable the whole 10 years with no friends, no steady employment. I was diagnosed with AS. I was determined that I needed to change. I changed dramatically, but unfortunately I had other circumstances that hindered me. If I did not have these other roadblocks, I am convinced I would have been a happy and functional member of society. Understand that you need to change. Observe how other people act socially and at work. At first, it will not feel natural to act like others, but eventually you can become like them

NTs don't relate to us because we are oddballs. Can anyone honestly say they would rather have AS than be an NT? Come on people. It takes a lot of effort to remove yourself from the AS world, but it can be done.

Last edited by KevinLA on 11 Nov 2007, 11:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

There's a lot of tension going on here. lol

Yes what that guy said is complete b****** in how he critcizes us like saying we're inferior. So much for acceptance of difference.

Society has rules that NTs follow. We don't follow those rules. It is like we are give the finger to everyone else. Why should they accept us?

KevinLA,

YOU'RE delusional! NTs have LAUGHED at me for having a job for too LONG! The average time spent at a job is like 3 years. I stay there several times as long, in any case. So much for AS FORCING you to have a limited career.

My career is IMPROVED because I have AS. I could rattle off 3-5 different symptoms, (Linked thoughts, better logic, good long term memory, good technically, hyperfocus, etc....) that make me BETTER at my job than the average NT! BTW this isn't merely my impression, but THEY have told me ALSO! The last time they told me? LAST FRIDAY!(Just 2 days ago!)

As for preferring NT? Oh YEAH, RIGHT! I'd rather be out having sex with anything that moves, being so much into football that it seems I can do nothing else, going to stinking/noisy/dirty bars, etc.... FORGET IT!

NO THANKS!

BTW People laugh at my quirks, etc... Just last friday a few laughed at the fact that I am not wearing a coat, and there is frost on the windows. I even have to get out and scrape the windshields(Windscreens for the UK folk! ).(In a short sleeve shirt) They pester me because I don't really do things on the weekend. They remark when I don't go up and eat food publicly provided.

But HEY, I am smarter than most of them, happier than some, and I think this world will be a little better because I was here. So WHO CARES!?!?

That's terrible. I think most of us ARE functional in this society. We simply function as we ARE, not as we're supposed to function, by NT standards.



As much as I dislike slamming NTs, I don't exactly want to be one, either. I like the way my brain works. I wish I wasn't so lonely. I wish that I could have friends in spite of the way my brain works. But I don't think I need to become like an NT in order to get along in this world.



Yes! I would rather have AS! I don't need to be any different. The more successful I become as an attorney, the more I see that I am just fine and don't need to try to be like an NT. Besides, I can't be like an NT. I've tried and I've failed miserably. I'd rather be me and figure out how to get along in the NT world and be successful than try to be an NT and fail miserably at it.

And yes, I'm a little odd. But again, I'm confident in my ability as a human being to contribute something positive to this world, in spite of my odd-ness.

Anyways, I'm successful enough at this point that my "odd-ness" can now be called "eccentricity."

There is nothing more important in this world than forming relationships. The best way to do this is to be a NT.

Well, um, I like to go to bars and play pool.

My husband, who is an NT, doesn't watch sports, hates bars, and prefers to spend his free time programming. He's been building his own computers and programming since the 80's.

Oh, and he doesn't have sex with anything that moves. Well, at least he'd better not.

2ukernkerl: wow, aren't we the bigot? faced with some advice from some who is clearly showing some sense and realises that the autistic community needs to drag its sorry carcass from its rut, and you rant about how superior you are to 'normal' people

Seeing as I have more NT friends than I have Aspie friends, I consider this an insult to them. Way to make a gross generalisation. I see that unlike me, you obviously are incapable of seeing the grey areas in life. OMG I don't like football! OMG I'm not a nymphomaniac, I MUST be completely different from EVERY Neurotypical person IN THE WORLD.


that's questionable.

wow, how incredibly egocentric of you.

while it's nice that your syndrome has some positive side effects, judging by your postyou are somewhat socially impaired and, like a lot of autistic people, unwilling to change.

Last edited by -Vorzac- on 11 Nov 2007, 2:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

lol, kevin. I can't be an NT. Like you, I tried for years, but I could never be like everyone else. Before I found out that I was an Aspie, and even before I found out that I have ADHD, I went through counseling for 6 years, thinking that maybe I was just psychologically messed up and that if I got un-messed up, I would get along with people better, including my own family.

You know what I figured out? I was just fine, and everyone else was messed up, lol. Everyone had a lot of personal problems. So I started figuring out how to just be me in spite of the way everyone else was.

Now, keeping in mind that I still didn't know what it was that made me different, I figured that I just had different interests, etc. I didn't know why I felt uncomfortable hugging in church, or why it was difficult to look people in the eye.

Some of the things I have been able to change, such as I force myself to hug people. A couple of times, I think I have hugged when it was inappropriate, but I thought the other person was going to hug me, lol.

I have learned to look people in the eye and not look away. Someone once told me that not being able to look people in the eye was a sign of having something to hide. So I worked on it. It's only difficult to look someone in the eye now if there is a lot of emotion involved.

One thing I haven't been able to fix is remembering people's names. Hell, sometimes I can't even remember what they look like. Someone once told me that not being able to remember someone's name meant I was really self-centered. Dang, no, it means I have a weird brain.

So, there are things I won't be able to learn to do like an NT can do it. But rather than go throw myself in a heap, I'm just going to keep being me. NTs have a difficult time accepting that there are things about me that aren't like them. That's fine, but don't tell me I have to change to be like them when there's not a lot of chance for that. That's setting myself up for failure.

the way i see it... if i wasn't AS... i wouldn't be ME!! forming relationships is important, but if people can't accept me as i am, they're not worth knowing in the first place. i don't think anybody should have to change for anyone. if you want to be an NT so badly, go find a cure, and cure yourself.. lol. as for me, i think i'd much rather be and oddball..

I wonder how many people on this forum will go on to become reclusive misanthropic hermits and never achieve anything worth while with their lives. I'm beginning to see quite a few candidates.

You got me there! I like pool too!



Well, that's different! HE already has a wife! I would hope you keep each other happy!

BTW KEVIN! If I thought relationships were the MOST important thing, I would throw money at it! SO WHAT if they're shallow!?!? But YOU'RE WRONG!

INTERESTING that you speak of my speaking against another post that speaks in such absolutes. So where are YOU coming from? OK, so they don't ALL go into bars, don't ALL have short careers, don't ALL ... I never really said they did. Just speaking of examples.

As for my thinking this world will be a little better, I do. Some companies run better, some people have better or easier jobs, maybe there is a little less polution. GRANTED it will never be attributed to me, and even a few dozen tons would be only a blip, but still...

Anyway, I still get a kick out of how you responded to be one little unique response against someone else that spoke against all autistics. Interesting!

Yet another example of your bias!! OK, I may be a bit reclusive. I may seem misanthropic(If more people tried to be decent, I would be appreciative, and I USED to give a LOT to charities! Both money AND time!). I worked at a soup kitchen(It was VOLUNTEER, not paid), and helped some people get jobs and a place to stay, and even TRIED to get a system adopted and used(I wrote it, ran it, and merely wanted it to be accepted, and to get data.). Others just wanted to create trouble so they could get paid! But HEY, I have already achieved a number of things.

But I wonder how much YOU gave and how much YOU achieved!