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17 Nov 2007, 5:38 pm

Something I think about sometimes, 'what would it be like to be NT'?
Given that AS means to a degree, one has limited imagination, maybe we could pool our resources?
*Does anyone else ever think along similar lines?
*Given all the social complexities you may have observed, does it look like too much hassle to be NT?
*Is it any more dificult if you are female? (given that females are better still at body language/non-verbal ques)
*Is being an NT a trade off of (+) easier to make friends / attract a mate against (-) you can't avoid all the complexities of social interaction

Apologies if this thread has been posted previously..... :?


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17 Nov 2007, 5:49 pm

I have a hard time with this concept. I have a vast and wandering imagination when it comes down to it, it just doesnt extend to putting myself in thier shoes. With no point of reference I have no real idea what its like to be NT.

*I have thought along these lines, and have spent my whole life studying people in the hopes that I could figure them out. I sort of have through the years, but its solely an outsiders opinion. I can sometimes understand why they are, but never how it feels.

*Since I have no point of reference I'd have to say that yes it seems like too much of a bother to be NT, but thats because of the amount of work I think I would have to put into it. If you offered them the same choice I think they would also go with the familier. People may not always like who they are, but they are used to it and familiarity breeds comfort.

*I think there are upsides and downsides to be male and to being female. It is likely easier in some senses, and harder in others.

*I think that life is about balancing the good with the bad. I would never want to be NT, I think that the things I would lose are not worth the potential gain. When it comes down to it I am happy with who I am, and the things I am able to do.


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17 Nov 2007, 5:56 pm

I think I'd be bored to tears. Being shallow would make it hell to spend time in my own company. And suffering because others have a better car, house, husband... No, it'd be hell


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17 Nov 2007, 5:58 pm

alei wrote:
*I think that life is about balancing the good with the bad. I would never want to be NT, I think that the things I would lose are not worth the potential gain. When it comes down to it I am happy with who I am, and the things I am able to do.


Very good point I forgot to mention. I am happy just being myself. More so now I know why I am this way - with AS I know what my 'operating system' is 8)


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17 Nov 2007, 6:07 pm

giaam wrote:

Very good point I forgot to mention. I am happy just being myself. More so now I know why I am this way - with AS I know what my 'operating system' is 8)


I think I am actually happier with myself than the NT's I know. I'm not particularily bothered by the things I can't do very well, its the outside world that takes issue with it. Finding out my "operating system" (love that) has been a huge relief. Now maybe people will stop looking for a cure for me and try understanding.

But...just because I dont want to be NT doesnt mean I'll stop wondering what its like :wink:


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17 Nov 2007, 7:12 pm

things I find most important, honesty, intellegence, creativity, morality, these are things that are most likely because I have aspergers. Giving it up would make me like the rest of the crowd, easily influenced, egocentric, lower creativity. Sure I would make friends easier, probably get alot more women, but cost seems too great.

I've looked at my family and others, people that live merely to make it to the next day. I dont know how they can do it. To live without impacting or analysing the world around you, sounds so pointless to me.



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17 Nov 2007, 7:43 pm

I think that the difference between NTs and AS is that NT's generally want more than anything to connect with people. Whereas people on the spectrum seem to want to connect with the entire universe, often through some arbitrary "interest." I'm not saying that we don't want to connect with people too. It's just that we probably never get that feeling of connection with the same force or magnitude that NTs do. So we find other things that make our lives meaningful.

I think of it like a drug that makes them feel really good when the make that social connection.
And I feel like my brain just doesn't have those receptors or my body just doesn't make that drug.


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17 Nov 2007, 9:46 pm

Greentea wrote:
I think I'd be bored to tears. Being shallow would make it hell to spend time in my own company. And suffering because others have a better car, house, husband... No, it'd be hell


If you were shallow you wouldn't care that you were shallow. I think aspies have to work a lot harder to get through life because our cultures are built around NT temperaments.

If an NT were suddenly turned into an aspy, without having built up all the coping mechanisms, they'd probably have some serious meltdowns immediately.


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17 Nov 2007, 9:57 pm

giaam wrote:
Something I think about sometimes, 'what would it be like to be NT'?
Given that AS means to a degree, one has limited imagination, maybe we could pool our resources?
*Does anyone else ever think along similar lines?
*Given all the social complexities you may have observed, does it look like too much hassle to be NT?
*Is it any more dificult if you are female? (given that females are better still at body language/non-verbal ques)
*Is being an NT a trade off of (+) easier to make friends / attract a mate against (-) you can't avoid all the complexities of social interaction

Apologies if this thread has been posted previously..... :?


I would love to be much better at social things. This would make it much easier to navigate the social complexities. It would prevent smaller misunderstandings that might be caused by not knowing what to do or not recognizing a nonverbal cue. (But this doesn't mean I think NT's have it easy!)



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17 Nov 2007, 10:00 pm

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I think I'd be bored to tears. Being shallow would make it hell to spend time in my own company. And suffering because others have a better car, house, husband... No, it'd be hell


:D That's just immature NT's that do that though. Eventually, at least some of them grow out of that.



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17 Nov 2007, 10:06 pm

I think some of my best writing has been achieved because of my ability to look at topics and situations from a completely different view than most people can.

If I were to lose that, then it wouldn't matter how well I got on with people, because my soul would be gone.


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17 Nov 2007, 10:40 pm

OregonBecky wrote:
Greentea wrote:
I think I'd be bored to tears. Being shallow would make it hell to spend time in my own company. And suffering because others have a better car, house, husband... No, it'd be hell


If you were shallow you wouldn't care that you were shallow. I think aspies have to work a lot harder to get through life because our cultures are built around NT temperaments.

If an NT were suddenly turned into an aspy, without having built up all the coping mechanisms, they'd probably have some serious meltdowns immediately.

I agree, which is why I think we should congrigate and collectively build our own culture that caters to our way of thinking.