Taking Part in the Greatest Medical Hoax in History

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01 Dec 2007, 7:19 pm

http://www.newstarget.com/019189.html


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01 Dec 2007, 7:28 pm

Dr. Moreau would like to have a word with you, Prendrick.



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01 Dec 2007, 8:06 pm

Some of what the author reports sounds like conspiracy theories and some of it it looks legitimate.


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01 Dec 2007, 8:54 pm

There are probably many more instances of such practices through history.

From what I have read of the "monster" study that attempted to induce stuttering in orphans, though, it seems like they actually induced something more like PTSD.



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02 Dec 2007, 1:16 am

you guys should click on the mystery meat photos, it's funny.

my psychology teacher told our class about the people giving increasingly higher electric shocks to people because of orders.


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02 Dec 2007, 1:21 am

jjstar, this is common knolege. Back fifty years ago the US, and Great Britan, and Germany were all doing horrible experiments on people. Then humanitarians stepped in and put their foot down. Huge changes to how scientific experiments are executed were put in place.



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02 Dec 2007, 1:23 am

I know for a fact that the US still is doing horrible experiments on people, but these experiments are mostly conducted outside the US.



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02 Dec 2007, 1:35 am

While I cannot personally attest that all of these are factual (and am not disupting they are not either), I do know that several are true and well documented.

The experiment mentioned that injected syphilis into black males that were not given treatment (which was readily available) to see what would happen to them is true. Also, the many experiments involving LSD and other mind-altering substances given to military and other nonsuspecting individuals is also well documented and true as well as many mind control experiments done around the same time chronologically.

The experiment mentioned that involved subjects giving shock treatments to actors when told to in response to incorrect answers to shock their subjects is also true, though I don't see how this harmed anyone as the actors were not really shocked. However, it is factual and tests such as this are often cited in college text as examples in human psychology representing the very real negative possibilities of group think or the willingness of most individuals to blindly follow orders of those they see as authority figures without questioning.

The test involving the study placing individuals into roles of prisoners and guards is also well documented and true and really did have to be stopped due to the problems cited in this article (ie. the "guards" became overly sadistic and the "prisoners" began exhibiting severe emotional distress). I believe there have been other more recent experiments similiar to this that have had similiar outcomes.

I also know that it has been well documented throughout our country's history the wide variety of controversial experiments done over the years on the institutionalized mentally ill. There has also been experimentation on prisoners throughout history. I've recently read about the prisoner malaria experiment being brought up at the Nuremburg trials of Nazi German physicians as justification that the U.S. also conducted medical experiments.

I know personally of several former military personnel in recent years that stated they were given a large amount of injections while in the armed forces that they were told they were "just vaccinations" but were not given any further information on just exactly what they were being "vaccinated" against or with.

I also know of one individual personally that was recently in the military (we're talking around the year 2000, not the 1940's) that was placed in a room for several days and was forced medication that caused extreme psychosis and severe hallucinations.



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02 Dec 2007, 6:32 am

newaspie wrote:
The experiment mentioned that injected syphilis into black males that were not given treatment (which was readily available) to see what would happen to them is true.


I remember learning about that in my Psychology A levels. I think the author of the article made a slight mistake with what they said about it, though. From what I remember, the patients were diagnosed and told that they would be treated, but were given placebos instead.



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02 Dec 2007, 9:15 am

I once heard about an experiment a Teacher performed, where he/she arbitarily assigned importance to a specific trait like red hair or brown eyes and often the ones percieved as being "better" opressed the ones seen as lesser, when the roles were reversed the attitudes were too.


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02 Dec 2007, 10:50 am

If diseases were induced via experimentation before throughout history, what makes anyone so certain that the roots of AUTISM can't be traced back to a laboratory, a vial and a hyperdermic needle?


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02 Dec 2007, 11:31 am

Because, jjstar, autism has been around for a very, very long time, and no one is sure what causes it. These consperecies you look up are part of a mindset that things have to be done to you, stuff can't just happen. It's paranoia.



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02 Dec 2007, 11:34 am

Deus_ex_machina wrote:
I once heard about an experiment a Teacher performed, where he/she arbitarily assigned importance to a specific trait like red hair or brown eyes and often the ones percieved as being "better" opressed the ones seen as lesser, when the roles were reversed the attitudes were too.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/


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02 Dec 2007, 11:34 am

Actually, I'm not so sure some autism isn't induced by vaccines (more specifically the gunk they contain)...



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02 Dec 2007, 11:37 am

A very, very long time, EH?
What is a long time? Like before the common era? Or maybe since the Renaissance? What's a *long time*? Can you please specify how LONG autism and its spectrums have been known to mankind? I will gladly nominate you for a Nobel in Science once you do so.

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Because, jjstar, autism has been around for a very, very long time, and no one is sure what causes it. These consperecies you look up are part of a mindset that things have to be done to you, stuff can't just happen. It's paranoia.


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02 Dec 2007, 11:38 am

LeKiwi wrote:
Actually, I'm not so sure some autism isn't induced by vaccines (more specifically the gunk they contain)...


Of course Mercury is the culprit. But you don't want to go around saying that out loud around these parts, lest thy be branded a *conspiracy theorist*.


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