An apology

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Firstly, I don't know why i'm apologising, but anyway i'm sorry for any trouble caused, even though i still disagree with the donation idea, but i know i never caused any trouble though you all think i did, hence why i was banned and appeared in the chatroom asking for the reasons off Alex and to be unbanned (if any of you have the chat room logs from that night you'll know what i mean). So, in effect, i'm apologising for "trolling" the forum, something which i did not do.

Also, alex and Mockingbird added me to their MSN messengers for no justifiable reason, unless they can say why they did, which I wasn't happy about, please ask in future if you would like to add me to MSN, that way i won't ignore/block you unless i say no

If you wish to comment, feel free

There is also a poll so we all can get a rough idea on the amount of members that either say i was totally out of order or was in the right

You shouldn't necessarily believe the things you're told elsewhere by people who — for whatever reason, justifiable or not —have an axe to grind, Pikachu. By the same token, I'd treat with caution what you hear in this place about those people with the axe .

You'd be best off making an unconditional apology and dropping the subject. We all make mistakes in the way we approach things, occasionally.

That's my opinion.

good call, ascan - i agree.

Isn't it obvious why your membership was deleted? You said you were leaving the board. Why would someone who has left need membership here?

If you don't like the donation idea, don't donate. No one's forcing you to. If you want to share your opinions, it is possible to do it politely. It's acceptable to disagree with someone. I think people felt you were very rude where there was no need to be.

Did alex and Mockingbird acquire your MSN details by hacking into your private information? If they did, then please complain about this privately; there's no need to get the whole board involved.

If your MSN details are public somewhere, this implies permission for anyone in the entire world to add you. If you would rather be asked in future, you need to make your MSN details private, and only give it out to people you choose.

What use is a poll about your behaviour? The moderating team made a decision. If you don't like it, raise it with them. It's nothing to do with other members.

Hopefully when you feel ready to accept that you made a mistake, you will make a genuine apology, and people will be happy to have you back.

I've obviously come in on this rather late but don't think Pikachu should be forced to apologise unless he did something really wrong. I wonder why this thing about donations has come up recently?

As long as there isn't pressure to donate, it probably isn't such a bad idea but it's a bit hard for people in other countries to donate as so much of it is taken out in taxes. There's supposed to be some kind of international money order you can get but I forget what it's called.

Tally, is there any significance to your toilet avatar?

No offence but if you want to do that, don't have your MSN in your profile. Of course people are going to add you. I'm sure if anyone really wanted to ask they would ask you even if it isn't in your profile.

It's like putting cupcakes on your letterbox with a big sign saying "taste me", then yelling at kids for tasting them.

Hey Pika. I didn't vote because I did say that your post in the donations thread was uncalled for; however, I think you have come here with a couple misconceptions which are not your fault (I know a couple individuals from chats-- not WP-- who have spoken of alex and WP before and not so kindly). Thus, I suspect you came in defensive.

I have known you longer than I have been on WP and I do not believe you to be a troll in any way, despite what some of your posts may resemble.

I find this to be a good community-- and after finding out some preliminaries of how extreme the costs of bandwidth can be and that we are getting a community for free, I, myself, would like to give what I can in return.

I hope you stay and the defensiveness wears off a bit more because you're a nice guy and it would be a shame to lose you.

you are right, i shouldn't believe everything unless there is evidence to support it


My membership wasn't deleted, I was banned, as for leaving, i changed my mind, I have been known to make rash decisions


ive already been told i don't have to donate if i do not wish to


They didn't hack my personal details, but it would have been nice if they had PMed me on here first


Not entirely true


The poll is just an indication of those who believed i was in the wrong and those who believed i was in the right, though you don't have to vote on it if you do not wish to


This is, in fairness a genuine apology, i know i made a mistake and i'm trying to correct it



put that way it makes me sound worse than I actually am, i'm really a nice person once you get to know me, just there are certain things that bug me now and again, i already mentioned earlier that a PM would have been nice, btw, no offence taken


Thanks Sophist

I can sometimes be overly defensive, something similar happened a few years ago that got me banned from an IRC channel (aspie one btw, no guesses which one on which network), which put me off using IRC for a couple of years, i actually went a bit too far then by making a treat that I wouldn't usually make, I sometimes am overly defensive in real life, I recently fell out with 2 taxi drivers, but i sorted that out, but that's beside the point.

I have learned to try not to lose my temper over the past few years, especially with the fact that i may be a fully qualified driver in a year or two, losing my temper then could prove dangerous.

Thanks to all those so far who left a comment, whether negative or positive, and those that chose to vote on whether i was out of order or not, more replies would be nice, i always feel guilty after upsetting people, and this is no different