Do Aspies and NTs have different ideas of what is rude?

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16 Dec 2007, 11:35 am

This is a dialogue with an optometrist I had today (I'm shopping for eye glasses):

Me: ...and the 3 times I bought glasses in my life I didn't see better with them, so this time I want to know if there's a way I can have the lenses replaced if I don't see better with them.

Optometrist: This time it'll be successful. All you have to do is relax and be trusting.

Me: You mean the opposite, probably. Those 3 times I was relaxed and trusting and I got conned.


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16 Dec 2007, 12:29 pm

There are limits, glasses are all the same, corrected bad vision is the best they can do, and Lasertech is eating their lunch, eyes can be sculpted to give perfect vision, glasses cannot do that, as they start with the defective, and only improve it.

Laser correction works, and should be a national program, it is short, fast, painless, and permanete.

Optometrist last changed when Ben Franklin invented bifocals, and they have been making a living off of clunky face frames ever since. It was still only a patch.

Now the technology exists to correct Corneas. 20/20 or better for all.

It is like having the technology to cure blindnness, and not using it because it would put all the schools, homes, and sheltered workshops for the blind out of business.

I buy reading glasses from the Dollar store, everything $1, they work as well as my $100 glasses. They look better too, and I do not have to worry about losing them or breaking them.

I am thinking of buying the Laser machine, working the back alley trade.



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16 Dec 2007, 12:39 pm

I think people with aspergers actually say exactly what they are thinking and NT's beat around the bush with it. Sometimes being blunt is a blessing in itself. About the glasses thing I've had three pairs too and none have been what I expected.



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16 Dec 2007, 1:04 pm

Questions -

You had 3 different eye exams and three pairs of glasses - all different prescriptions?

If you had issues with the glasses in the past - why didn't you go back and have them replaced? I think there's a guarantee on glasses that they ought to work or else you get an adjustment.

What is rude about this transaction?

2 Cents - because this guy is actually going to be helping you see better - assumingly - you do have to relax and go with the flow - do what he says and be receptive and keep the dialogue open. Telling him from the get go that he's going to screw up doesn't for a good partnership make and will in all liklihood bring you to pair number 4 of lousy glasses. i.e. don't jinx what you don't know for certain or else you'll be unpleasantly surprised that you were right!


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This is a dialogue with an optometrist I had today (I'm shopping for eye glasses):

Me: ...and the 3 times I bought glasses in my life I didn't see better with them, so this time I want to know if there's a way I can have the lenses replaced if I don't see better with them.

Optometrist: This time it'll be successful. All you have to do is relax and be trusting.

Me: You mean the opposite, probably. Those 3 times I was relaxed and trusting and I got conned.


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16 Dec 2007, 1:36 pm

Usually the optometrist explains to me that even with my glasses, my eyesight won't be perfect....I have a severe astigmatism in my left (dominant)eye....for as long as I can remember the optometrists always told me it won't be perfect...just alot better...

Anywhoo...yeah..I do think Aspies and NT's might have a different idea of what is rude...to a certain extent....



16 Dec 2007, 1:44 pm

What does this have to do with being rude?



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16 Dec 2007, 2:26 pm

As they say in England 'You should've gone to Specsaver' thats where I go to and where I go they are quite good. When I get new glasses I always think that they have made a mistake but my eyes gets used to them and I have no trouble.

Anyhow back to the question in hand I don't think that there is much difference in rudeness with Aspies and NTs at all. Reason why I say is because I know quite a few aspies personally and a few NTs personally it when it comes to rudeness it is equal.



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16 Dec 2007, 3:10 pm

Inventor wrote:
There are limits, glasses are all the same, corrected bad vision is the best they can do, and Lasertech is eating their lunch, eyes can be sculpted to give perfect vision, glasses cannot do that, as they start with the defective, and only improve it.

Laser correction works, and should be a national program, it is short, fast, painless, and permanete.

Optometrist last changed when Ben Franklin invented bifocals, and they have been making a living off of clunky face frames ever since. It was still only a patch.

Now the technology exists to correct Corneas. 20/20 or better for all.

It is like having the technology to cure blindnness, and not using it because it would put all the schools, homes, and sheltered workshops for the blind out of business.

I buy reading glasses from the Dollar store, everything $1, they work as well as my $100 glasses. They look better too, and I do not have to worry about losing them or breaking them.

I am thinking of buying the Laser machine, working the back alley trade.



Inventor,

You are *************************WRONG**********************! !! !! !! !! !! !! !

Laser eye surgery is NOT perfect! There CAN be complications! Complications can be PERMANENT and include blindness and loss of eyes! Rare, I know, but it IS there! It can NOT work on everyone. I am one it will NOT work on! It is not, and apparently almost never is, perfect correction.

BTW hold off on buying that machine. You can't determine risk, and what happens if there IS a problem?



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16 Dec 2007, 4:06 pm

I certainly beleived for a while now their is a huge difference at least with what I find rude compaired to others. Basicly my whole life their is something someone will do that I will consider rude and they would not understand if I try to explain it to them. The same goes for them apparently at work I am insulting whenever I dont want to interact with others, I keep to myself for the night and everyone acts like I am being rude. I think their is a huge difference in the definition of rude for aspies and NT's because its hard for us to relate to one another.

I have wondered about this question in my head for a while now, and determined their certainly is a big difference.


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16 Dec 2007, 10:44 pm

For sure.

I seem to be at opposite ends sometimes - I think that interrupting someone doing something by themselves (eg. listening to music on headphones) is rude, but others think that isolating yourself (eg. by listening to music on headphones ;) ) is rude instead.


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17 Dec 2007, 12:13 am

I think manipulative lies are rude, but the pecking order thinks being sarcastic to a higher up (a professional in the field, in this example) is rude.

Manipulative lie = saying that the lenses will fit well if only I am trusting and relaxed.

Being sarcastic = saying he probably means the opposite.


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