Let's write a book- on Aspie war vets and ex-mental patients

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04 Nov 2007, 3:22 pm

I noticed that a LOT, and I do mean a LOT, of WPers have been in the military, and every single one of them I talked to has a fascinating story to tell.


I also noticed that a LOT-- and again, I mean a LOT-- of WPers have been in mental wards, and again, every single one of them I talked to had a fascinating story to tell.


Perhaps every single one of those people that wants to can write their story in full, and we can combine it into a book about Aspies called Aspies Under Stress or something, to educate the public (after all, your true character comes out when you're under stress)!


Everyone else who has a fascinating story to tell can also contribute!


Just an idea.



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04 Nov 2007, 3:29 pm

Ana54 wrote:
I noticed that a LOT, and I do mean a LOT, of WPers have been in the military, and every single one of them I talked to has a fascinating story to tell.


I also noticed that a LOT-- and again, I mean a LOT-- of WPers have been in mental wards, and again, every single one of them I talked to had a fascinating story to tell.


Perhaps every single one of those people that wants to can write their story in full, and we can combine it into a book about Aspies called Aspies Under Stress or something, to educate the public (after all, your true character comes out when you're under stress)!


Everyone else who has a fascinating story to tell can also contribute!


Just an idea.


and a good idea it is, too!

However we are creating something different than a book. . .years of posts from each and every one of us into this huge data base of all our stories. Pure democracy!



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04 Nov 2007, 3:38 pm

i think its a great idea! lets do it! i have experienced neither of those but i am a semi experienced author, i can put it together and get it published---there is an open source publishing site called lulu.com i use, my book is published there.
send me a PM and we can discuss this some more!!


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04 Nov 2007, 3:50 pm

I agree. I love the idea! I'm an experienced writer, and I would be happy to contribute. I have never been in the military or a mental hospital, but I do have interesting stories to tell.

I think that the book would be most interesting if all kinds of stories were included. There could even be several different volumes, depending on how many people were interested. Maybe each volume could have its own theme, or maybe they could just be random collections.

I also have publishing experience. I interned with a small publishing company while in college.

I think that a book would be a valuable companion to what we are creating here. Books and discussion boards are quite different, with their own unique advantages. A book could be a fun way to present a more realistic, detailed, and varied view of ASDs to the general public.



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04 Nov 2007, 5:40 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt41039.html

This thread is full of great stories! And they're only partial stories! We need to get it ALL out of them! :twisted:



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04 Nov 2007, 7:21 pm

to whom would the royalties go?
would it be possible to make them payable to support of this site?


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04 Nov 2007, 7:23 pm

That WOULD be possible. We'll just have to ask Alex for the information. :)

EDIT: Here's another good thread about people on here who were in mental wards:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt4148.html



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04 Nov 2007, 8:45 pm

By society's standards, I've led a pretty boring life. Still, I dream about writing an autobiography when I'm older.



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04 Nov 2007, 8:50 pm

I was in a mental ward (voluntary) and met an accountant that had seen God. He was super nice and there was a machine with unlimited Dr. Pepper.

I'd go back if they let me!



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04 Nov 2007, 9:21 pm

I was in Vietnam. Most of the things that happened to me were not what the popular conception of a war is. A book is hard. Who would edit? (no, don't ask me). As to being in a mental ward, well, sometimes, I suppose it's interesting (I've never been on one as an inmate), but again, it's mostly an internal experience. You're going through something heavy, but from the outside it's very difficult to see, and from the inside, it's usually (I'd imagine) hard to get an interesting perspective.

Having said all that, I'd contribute if someone else wanted to edit. But for me, anyway, Vietnam was not a positive experience. It didn't bother me, even though I was right in the middle of it, and sometimes I wonder why not, but most of it was being hot and uncomfortable, and terrified, and doing unspeakable things to other people, which I don't think very many of us who "served" are very proud of. Some of us were drafted, and that was an experience in itself. I wasn't. But I didn't go over there to serve my country. I went over there because I thought it would be fun. Which is kinda sick, now that I look back at it, but what can I say, I was 20, and I was kinda sick. I'm much older now, and a lot saner, I hope.

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04 Nov 2007, 9:42 pm

I've been in a three mental hospitals. The first time was unmitigated hell, the other two not so bad.



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04 Nov 2007, 9:49 pm

Aridarr, do you want to tell what happened? :)


Beentheredonethat: what IS editing, besides spellchecking and correcting punctuation? I'll do that. :)



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04 Nov 2007, 10:21 pm

beentheredonethat wrote:
I was in Vietnam. Most of the things that happened to me were not what the popular conception of a war is. A book is hard. Who would edit? (no, don't ask me). As to being in a mental ward, well, sometimes, I suppose it's interesting (I've never been on one as an inmate), but again, it's mostly an internal experience. You're going through something heavy, but from the outside it's very difficult to see, and from the inside, it's usually (I'd imagine) hard to get an interesting perspective.

Having said all that, I'd contribute if someone else wanted to edit. But for me, anyway, Vietnam was not a positive experience. It didn't bother me, even though I was right in the middle of it, and sometimes I wonder why not, but most of it was being hot and uncomfortable, and terrified, and doing unspeakable things to other people, which I don't think very many of us who "served" are very proud of. Some of us were drafted, and that was an experience in itself. I wasn't. But I didn't go over there to serve my country. I went over there because I thought it would be fun. Which is kinda sick, now that I look back at it, but what can I say, I was 20, and I was kinda sick. I'm much older now, and a lot saner, I hope.

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Dear beentheredonethat,
I have one Aspie friend that posts here that joined the US Marines because he thought they were the Merchant Marines and no body told him different at the recruiting office.
my first husband was drafted out of Georgia from a chain gang in 1965 for becoming far too friendly with the far to willing Governor's daughter. He was in the 101st Airborne Rangers and was by his own admission "a maniac." (Needless to say, he didn't have a 'good' Vietnam experience either.) He was AWOL for 18 months and when finally found was so strung out on heroin they shipped him back to his mother in the states where he drank straight tequila for 6 months just to kick the withdrawal hell. He settled in Berkeley, CA and in 1969, I met him and we started our own self employed commodities business. We sold the best damn commodities in town!
Unfortunately, he never overcame being the maniac he became in Nam.

Merle

This might be a story from the past, but I just can't help but knowing it will be happening all over again from the recent war, and for the precisely the same reason.



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05 Nov 2007, 12:29 am

Anna:
Editing is deciding where to put stuff. It's not easy. The other is copy editing.

Merele:

I'm still laughing. What did you say you were selling? I don't want to know, but you're a woman after my own heart!

I was an E3, and after awhile I thought I was losing it. I mean just Dinky Dau. But I managed not to smoke, or anything worse, and I turned down a wonderful chance to frag some guy who thought he was God's answer to the war, which didn't stop the Viet Cong. Someone forgot to tell them that he was unkillable. They killed his ass. As a human being, he didn't deserve it. As an A**h*le he did. I didn't do it.

These are not the kind of stories you tell to kids who don't know what a war is. Especially some of the stuff that really makes you wonder just what kind of a person you are. I don't blame him for goign AWOL. I used to answer at roll call for a guy who hadn't been there for two months. They never caught me, and I wouldn't even try to change my voice. They probably coulda charged me with something, but what were they gonna do, ship me to Vietnam?

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05 Nov 2007, 12:57 am

beentheredonethat wrote:
Anna:
Editing is deciding where to put stuff. It's not easy. The other is copy editing.

Merele:

I'm still laughing. What did you say you were selling? I don't want to know, but you're a woman after my own heart!

I was an E3, and after awhile I thought I was losing it. I mean just Dinky Dau. But I managed not to smoke, or anything worse, and I turned down a wonderful chance to frag some guy who thought he was God's answer to the war, which didn't stop the Viet Cong. Someone forgot to tell them that he was unkillable. They killed his ass. As a human being, he didn't deserve it. As an A**h*le he did. I didn't do it.

These are not the kind of stories you tell to kids who don't know what a war is. Especially some of the stuff that really makes you wonder just what kind of a person you are. I don't blame him for goign AWOL. I used to answer at roll call for a guy who hadn't been there for two months. They never caught me, and I wouldn't even try to change my voice. They probably coulda charged me with something, but what were they gonna do, ship me to Vietnam?

Rafe



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I know your meaning about young people and children not being prepared to hear the real stories. Even in the mental institution it becomes no bedtime story real quick. I got pregnant in the mental hospital and spent most of my time retching from the smell of schizophrenia that had just penetrated the walls in there. At the time I had no idea I could say 'no' to sexual encounters, and even if I could have kept men away physically, I craved any attention and I had been programed to think every man was my potential soul mate that was poised to whisk me away to lifelong love, affection and marriage. Why wouldn't I welcome him into my willing arms?
Such story lines are probably quaint in this day and age and the lessons I learned might be obsolete now that single parenting is considered a noble undertaking, rather than a moral and ethical dilemma that destroyed any social standing what so ever.

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05 Nov 2007, 4:20 pm

I think it's a good idea. I would certainly read it.