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Mw99
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10 Jan 2008, 5:30 pm

What do you think?



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10 Jan 2008, 5:36 pm

Mw99 wrote:
Having an extreme version of the male brain makes us more than qualified to help decide the outcome of a case, but I'm sure some could argue that our social naivette impairs our ability to understand the actions and motivations of the parties involved in the case.

What do you think?


I think cases should be decided based on the facts and not what someones feeling about the way a person acts. I've heard people on TV say they think someone is guilty because the person acts differently and I think that clouds their judgment. I think people with AS are far more qualified than NTs.



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10 Jan 2008, 5:37 pm

I was talking about at work, why I have never been called out. I am not register under anything.



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10 Jan 2008, 5:39 pm

You may be right, and if it were to come up in voir dire (jury selction process), a lawyer might be tempted to use a strike to remove you.
More than likely, it would have no effect, and you'd make it, or not, just like everyone else. And if you made it, and there was a social element to what was to be decided, you would be impaired.


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10 Jan 2008, 5:42 pm

I just got notified of jury duty for next month. I plan to go and do my civic duty, and I don't beleive I am obligated to tell anyone about my AS. I just hope my fellow jurors can deal with my aspienss.

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10 Jan 2008, 5:44 pm

i will never be called for jury duty 1. i am PDD-NOS (Almost Kanners autism) 2. heavily physically disabled

YAY... NO JURY DUTY FOR ME!! !


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10 Jan 2008, 5:50 pm

Already done jury duty once. Wouldn't mind it again, actually. It was a bit difficult to understand some of the more arbitrary positions of some of my co-jurors, and it was plain frustrating when the battered wife refused to testify against the husband, but we got the job done properly.

I don't think my alternative perspective makes me unqualified as a "peer" and, as such, a juror.

I think there would be a bit of a stink on my part if I actually got removed from one of my duties/rights of citizenship just because I used my brain differently.

Maybe a very big stink.


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10 Jan 2008, 6:25 pm

I have never been called for jury duty. I think it's because I move a lot and I'm poor.



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10 Jan 2008, 6:32 pm

I have done my jury duty. Getting there and waiting, finding lunch, etc. was more of a pain in the butt than any duties they might have me do. I didn't even try to get out of it, I like to be part of the process. However, I doubt I would be any better than anyone else. Like most, I never got selected for an actual jury.



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10 Jan 2008, 6:37 pm

I'll never be exempt for any reason. In fact, I'm sure I'll have to serve jury duty at some point - it will probably happen when I have a case of the flu and right before a big project is due. Such is life.



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10 Jan 2008, 6:50 pm

Not directly related to Aspergers (save the predisposition for aspies to be programmers, etc), but it might still apply.

There's an oft-told story that if you state that you work a tech job (and/or for a known tech company), you're more likely to get dismissed by one of the lawyers from actually hearing a case. (The original version of the story I heard was from IBM employees - once you mentioned that you worked for IBM, you were pretty much done.)

The reason: lawyers want to be able to sway jury members with emotion. Techies typically focus on the logic of the laws instead.

Maybe we should craft a default story to give the lawyers. "I have Asperger's Syndrome, which can cause me to miss emotional cues in testimony." ;):mrgreen:

That won't necessarily get you out of jury duty, but if you never get panelled on a jury, at least you won't have to stay past the week that you have to be available to serve.


(BTW - Mw99, I just wanted to say that your avatar is awesome. Today was the first time I saw it on a green background (in another thread), and it took me a second to figure out what was going on.)



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10 Jan 2008, 7:23 pm

I've never been called for jury duty, but if I do get called the defense's lawyer would most likely kick me to the curb because defense lawyers don't want jurors that dispassionately weigh the evidence, they want gullible morons that fall for sophistry and emotion-laden pleading. (as you can probably tell, I have a very low opinion of juries).


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10 Jan 2008, 7:51 pm

I've been called up for jury duty six times. Maybe I ought to buy more lottery tickets. The lawyers only asked a few cursery questions. Once in a trial where someone was suing someone else, the lawyer singled me ought to explain, in baby talk, about the preponderance of the evidence for civil cases. He asked if I understood. I said, yeah, Judge Wapner always talked about that stuff.
Everyone in the court roared with laughter. That wasn't my intent. I just wanted the lawyer to quit explaining things to me that I already knew. I got put on the case but, from then after, during the trial, I was known as the Judge Wapner girl.


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10 Jan 2008, 7:56 pm

Are you joking?

I know a judge who has Aspergers.



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10 Jan 2008, 8:05 pm

lupin wrote:
Are you joking?

I know a judge who has Aspergers.


It's the complete truth, nothing but the truth. One thing that's helped me survive through the years is, that if I'm unintentionally funny to go with it. Humor is the most effective armor of all.


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10 Jan 2008, 8:12 pm

"Are aspies disqualified?"

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Only after they talk to you for awhile :D !

It starts with a big group.
They are all given numbers
The proscecution and defense each get to eliminate so many-say a few each.
They are looked at, questioned, quieried, and poked. (not poked).

They want to know how they'll respond to certain situations.
That's the elimination process.

The numbers are called.

I was called.
The judge did a pre-questioning before the parties took us to another room and did the same.
Judge asked if I ever knew anyone who was in a dui accident.
I was like yeah that's how I lost so and so back here in such and such right over there...and they all died. Kids....


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