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05 Jan 2008, 4:08 pm

I'm wondering about some kind of business plan I could make where parents or other invovled people buy a house for people on the mild autism side of the spectrum to live together and pool their resources for the supports that they need.

I think autistic spectrum types could live together and be good for each other as long as an aware support person keeps track of the things that they're too spacey to keep track of.

So... house prices will be down a lot next year, especially the big houses priced on the higher ends. If I got several middle class people going to the bank and buying a big house for their spectrum kids and a lawyer involved plugging all the holes about what coud go wrong, maybe this could work.

Not for everybody but it could work well for some people, I think and maybe if it's the right mix, they could create some kind of business together.

My son is getting SSI and some support from the state so people like that could make the house pay for itself. In addition, the house would appreciate in value so they'd have an asset that might come in handy someday.


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05 Jan 2008, 4:13 pm

I don't see why they couldn't.

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05 Jan 2008, 4:18 pm

I think that is an awsome idea, autistic adults (like myself) can benifit by with a little help being placed in the real world, have friends and social connections and have a nice start in life. Just be sure everybody has their own personal space or room cause I know if I was a resident I would want a room where only I had a key to get into. Indeed, purchasing a house in the end will be far less costly then renting and that would be one less thing to worry about for these guys, they could go about their buisness, doing chores, working and have someone, possibly a parent work to enshure bills are payed and everyone contributes.

I am pretty fortunate to have the organizational skills I need (its a special interest, accounting and all from the past) and so I am 25 and have been a homeowner for years with the help of mom and dad loaning me many thousands of $$ for this small home I have all to myself. Many are not as fortunate as I am to have parents with the kind of wealth resources mine did and ability to organize and function independently in the world. With such a huge population that keeps increasing, and little data on how they fair as adults it would be great for them to come together to support one another and make a good long term investment that will pay for itself years down the line.

Awsome idea, and if you decide to impliment it I would certainly advise you go in with other families who you truly trust, get a lawyer to do whatever they need to do and of course everyone who lives in the house must have an income and contribute an equal amount to enshure everything is payed, tax, utilities, cable/internet, morgage and possibly even transportation tho I am not 100% sure how that can be shaired.

This is a step towards helping autistic adults have a good independent life, so many of them will not nearly be as lucky and its very sad.


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05 Jan 2008, 4:21 pm

I think it's a good idea. I'd rent a house first to see how it goes. If all goes well you can buy a house later.



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05 Jan 2008, 4:26 pm

What happens when five strangers stop being polite and start being aspie? Find out 9/8 Central on Monday night on...

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05 Jan 2008, 4:30 pm

woodsman25 wrote:
I think that is an awsome idea, autistic adults (like myself) can benifit by with a little help being placed in the real world, have friends and social connections and have a nice start in life. Just be sure everybody has their own personal space or room cause I know if I was a resident I would want a room where only I had a key to get into. Indeed, purchasing a house in the end will be far less costly then renting and that would be one less thing to worry about for these guys, they could go about their buisness, doing chores, working and have someone, possibly a parent work to enshure bills are payed and everyone contributes.

I am pretty fortunate to have the organizational skills I need (its a special interest, accounting and all from the past) and so I am 25 and have been a homeowner for years with the help of mom and dad loaning me many thousands of $$ for this small home I have all to myself. Many are not as fortunate as I am to have parents with the kind of wealth resources mine did and ability to organize and function independently in the world. With such a huge population that keeps increasing, and little data on how they fair as adults it would be great for them to come together to support one another and make a good long term investment that will pay for itself years down the line.

Awsome idea, and if you decide to impliment it I would certainly advise you go in with other families who you truly trust, get a lawyer to do whatever they need to do and of course everyone who lives in the house must have an income and contribute an equal amount to enshure everything is payed, tax, utilities, cable/internet, morgage and possibly even transportation tho I am not 100% sure how that can be shaired.

This is a step towards helping autistic adults have a good independent life, so many of them will not nearly be as lucky and its very sad.


Thanks for the insights. The reason I asked right now is because in a couple of weeks I'll have two groups started in our area (Portland) where adults on the mild side of the spectrum and their parents are going to get together and try to see what we have in common and what we can do together to solve those problems. There will be a lot of issues brought up like about jobs, schooling and, of course, housing.

Then in late January that Autism Society of Oregon is putting on a housing conference. I suspect that there won't be highly creative ideas at the conference but there will be a lot of people going there looking for answers. I want to be able to think on my feet about how to make connections and make the most of the conference and the people I meet.

We have a very big, roomy house on an acreage. I wouldn't mind turning it into a house for people like my son. I'd just need them to meet the mortgage payments and taxes so that my husband, my daughter and I could afford to live nearby in another house.


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05 Jan 2008, 4:32 pm

werbert wrote:
What happens when five strangers stop being polite and start being aspie? Find out 9/8 Central on Monday night on...

The Aspie World.


Well, it would be much more entertaining than an NT reality show! :D


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05 Jan 2008, 4:48 pm

OregonBecky wrote:
werbert wrote:
What happens when five strangers stop being polite and start being aspie? Find out 9/8 Central on Monday night on...

The Aspie World.


Well, it would be much more entertaining than an NT reality show! :D


I'm sorry but I doubt that :P. NTs are amazingly dysfunctional and petty at times, and that's where the ratings go up.



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05 Jan 2008, 4:52 pm

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OregonBecky wrote:
werbert wrote:
What happens when five strangers stop being polite and start being aspie? Find out 9/8 Central on Monday night on...

The Aspie World.


Well, it would be much more entertaining than an NT reality show! :D


I'm sorry but I doubt that :P. NTs are amazingly dysfunctional and petty at times, and that's where the ratings go up.


Yeah, maybe you're right. An aspy show might turn into an in depth discussion about how some math problem dates back the the Babylonian era and how it relates to a glitch in somebody's DS game.


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05 Jan 2008, 5:30 pm

OregonBecky wrote:
woodsman25 wrote:
I think that is an awsome idea, autistic adults (like myself) can benifit by with a little help being placed in the real world, have friends and social connections and have a nice start in life. Just be sure everybody has their own personal space or room cause I know if I was a resident I would want a room where only I had a key to get into. Indeed, purchasing a house in the end will be far less costly then renting and that would be one less thing to worry about for these guys, they could go about their buisness, doing chores, working and have someone, possibly a parent work to enshure bills are payed and everyone contributes.

I am pretty fortunate to have the organizational skills I need (its a special interest, accounting and all from the past) and so I am 25 and have been a homeowner for years with the help of mom and dad loaning me many thousands of $$ for this small home I have all to myself. Many are not as fortunate as I am to have parents with the kind of wealth resources mine did and ability to organize and function independently in the world. With such a huge population that keeps increasing, and little data on how they fair as adults it would be great for them to come together to support one another and make a good long term investment that will pay for itself years down the line.

Awsome idea, and if you decide to impliment it I would certainly advise you go in with other families who you truly trust, get a lawyer to do whatever they need to do and of course everyone who lives in the house must have an income and contribute an equal amount to enshure everything is payed, tax, utilities, cable/internet, morgage and possibly even transportation tho I am not 100% sure how that can be shaired.

This is a step towards helping autistic adults have a good independent life, so many of them will not nearly be as lucky and its very sad.


Thanks for the insights. The reason I asked right now is because in a couple of weeks I'll have two groups started in our area (Portland) where adults on the mild side of the spectrum and their parents are going to get together and try to see what we have in common and what we can do together to solve those problems. There will be a lot of issues brought up like about jobs, schooling and, of course, housing.

Then in late January that Autism Society of Oregon is putting on a housing conference. I suspect that there won't be highly creative ideas at the conference but there will be a lot of people going there looking for answers. I want to be able to think on my feet about how to make connections and make the most of the conference and the people I meet.

We have a very big, roomy house on an acreage. I wouldn't mind turning it into a house for people like my son. I'd just need them to meet the mortgage payments and taxes so that my husband, my daughter and I could afford to live nearby in another house.


Hmmm... because they may not be able to organize their own finances or be able to pay bills like they should I almost wonder if the parents or lawyer or whatever can make it so all the costs are divided up and split evenly and instead of just going around collecting money it can be deducted from their income so every mounth or week or whatever you (the owner of the proporty) can use that income to pay utilities and everything for them plus get the rent you need for them living their. This would be alot easier then trying to hit them up for money and would enshure everything gets payed, you always get your rent money and they dont have to worry about missing payments or over spending and all.


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05 Jan 2008, 5:37 pm

It is probably would be better with all aspies as opposed to 5 people with 5 different conditions.
um..at SHFL..we had :

me (lets assume I am an Aspie/ADD)
Flakey (ADDer/borderline Aspie/Dependant personality)
Mr. Composulous (Bi-polar/Schitzotypal/AS)
Mr. Cornelison (NPD/dyslexic/alcoholic/something else undefined)

And we were all in a band together www.organfailure.org ....oh the dysfunction..oh the meltdowns......weeeeee..The only person in the house/band who could drive was Flakey...still is....



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05 Jan 2008, 5:42 pm

poopylungstuffing wrote:
It is probably would be better with all aspies as opposed to 5 people with 5 different conditions.
um..at SHFL..we had :

me (lets assume I am an Aspie/ADD)
Flakey (ADDer/borderline Aspie/Dependant personality)
Mr. Composulous (Bi-polar/Schitzotypal/AS)
Mr. Cornelison (NPD/dyslexic/alcoholic/something else undefined)

And we were all in a band together www.organfailure.org ....oh the dysfunction..oh the meltdowns......weeeeee..The only person in the house/band who could drive was Flakey...still is....


It would have to be people on the autism spectrum because my husband and I would understand them the best, considering we're on the spectrum and have been constantly figuring out our temperaments and those of our kids. Besides, I really like hanging out with autistic people. They're more forgiving about my weirdness and we have more fun together.


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05 Jan 2008, 5:50 pm

werbert wrote:
What happens when five strangers stop being polite and start being aspie? Find out 9/8 Central on Monday night on...

The Aspie World.


Will is almost NT, will he kill Amanda because of her extreme aversion to the world outside their home? Stay tuned. Film at 11.


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05 Jan 2008, 5:52 pm

But seriously. I work for not for profit adult service provider and we often group people of similar dxs. It seems to work out well. Except when they are at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum.


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06 Jan 2008, 2:55 am

Liverbird wrote:
But seriously. I work for not for profit adult service provider and we often group people of similar dxs. It seems to work out well. Except when they are at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum.

It's nice to hear from experience. When you (the provider, I mean) group people up, do you separate out the sexes? Or do you allow mixing? If you do allow it, how does that work out?

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06 Jan 2008, 1:39 pm

i dont know. i have a difficult time living with anyone because im just such a me snob. i love me too much :D


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