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23 Jan 2008, 8:36 pm

I've always been puzzled as to why a lot of you say that you don't want a cure for Asperger's. I kept thinking, "you don't want friends and for people to understand you?"

then I thought that I have certain things about myself that I attribute to my AS: My appreciation for the little things in life - wildlife, smells from a bakery, the way clouds look like things... also my insistence for use of proper grammar and spelling. I don't like kids spelling words with an unnecessary Z (eg, boyz) or what have you or using an apostrophe when a words ends with S but isn't possessive (eg, "Silly Boys - Jeep's are for Girls"). Not to mention lying and doing reckless and sometimes illegal things like doing "donuts" in a parking lot or racing through a red light. I got thinking, "if that's what it means to be NT, I want no part of it".



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23 Jan 2008, 8:38 pm

I wouldn't turn down one..;) It's a genetic thing, so until they can do genetic engineering on the 'ol noggin, I guess I gotta live with it..;)



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23 Jan 2008, 8:57 pm

Because I don't want one, and that's the bottom line.


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23 Jan 2008, 9:01 pm

It bothers me because to me it would be like walking up to a black person and saying "We can give you a shot that will turn you white... don't you want that???"


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23 Jan 2008, 9:18 pm

AspieDave wrote:
It bothers me because to me it would be like walking up to a black person and saying "We can give you a shot that will turn you white... don't you want that???"


--or a gay person.

I think, like gays and blacks, the AS culture needs to educate and advocate for acceptence. If AS was known about a long time ago, I think religions would have sprouted up to condemn us as something unholy. Maybe AS people were often labeled witches and then were burned and hanged.


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23 Jan 2008, 9:38 pm

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I think, like gays and blacks, the AS culture needs to educate and advocate for acceptence. If AS was known about a long time ago, I think religions would have sprouted up to condemn us as something unholy. Maybe AS people were often labeled witches and then were burned and hanged.


That's likely true. Unfortunately, it's also likely there were Aspie's prominent among those lighting the fires, or organizing the witch hunts... the Church at that time would have been a perfect place for an Aspie of high intelligence to be. Even those of modest birth, could rise quite high (relatively speaking) if they had the ability. Don't forget that a not inconsiderable number of renown scientists were members of religious orders or the clergy. And as we've all seen from some posts... some Aspie's can be people of unshakable and profound faith... (holds up a vial of mercury and shakes it... BOO!! !!). :twisted:


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23 Jan 2008, 9:42 pm

I've lived with my brain working a certain way my whole life. In some ways, it is superior to a neurotypical brain. So if that changed, what would it be like? I would be afraid.
And besides, I'm just happy the way I am.



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23 Jan 2008, 9:46 pm

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I've lived with my brain working a certain way my whole life. In some ways, it is superior to a neurotypical brain. So if that changed, what would it be like? I would be afraid.
And besides, I'm just happy the way I am.


Same here, lived with my brain my whole life, fought to do the simpliest thing in life, now you think i'm going to just throw all of that hardwork away with some simple cure, hell no!


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23 Jan 2008, 10:49 pm

TheMidnightJudge wrote:
I've lived with my brain working a certain way my whole life. In some ways, it is superior to a neurotypical brain. So if that changed, what would it be like? I would be afraid.
And besides, I'm just happy the way I am.


Me too.


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23 Jan 2008, 11:00 pm

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23 Jan 2008, 11:19 pm

I want respect and acceptance. That's what I want most.



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23 Jan 2008, 11:30 pm

What's wrong with doing donuts on the parking lot?



Other than wearing down tires and clutch :(



It takes skill to plant a decent "donut." Ahh...burning out requires grace.

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23 Jan 2008, 11:58 pm

This is who I am. To arise cured would have someone else living in my body. Creepy.

If someone came at me with a syringe of cure and a determined look on his face, I'd hurt him!


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24 Jan 2008, 12:16 am

The reason some people with AS don't want a cure is because they are high.

Several scientific studies have found high levels of beta-endorphins in autistics. Beta-endorphins are similar to opiates and make a person feel high. People who are high on opiates feel good being alone. The opiates are why some autistics are less sensitive to pain. NTs who don't have this problem socialize to feel good. Socializing may make NTs feel good by increasing levels of beta-endorphins.

The source is undigested wheat and milk proteins. Two treatments are gluten-free/casein-free diet or the drug naltrexone which is used in heroin addicts to block the effects of the opiates. Probiotics improve digestion and may cure the opiate problem.

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Naltrexone blocks the action of endogenous opioids at opiate receptors; endorphins are opiate-like substances in the brain and are associated with pleasure (e.g., runners' 'high,' sexual activity) and/or an anesthetic-like feeling. Research has shown that many autistic individuals have high levels of beta-endorphins in their central nervous system. Since naltrexone blocks the action of opiate receptors, it thus reduces their level of endorphins...Some of the improvements noted in autistic individuals who have taken naltrexone include: increased socialization, eye contact, and general happiness; normalized pain sensitivity; and a reduction in self-injury and stereotypic (self-stimulatory) behaviors.

http://www.autism.org/naltrex.html


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The high levels of beta-endorphins allow the autistic person to receive excess stimulation from the opioid reward pathway. Interestingly, researchers suggest that the ability to create an internal excitement or high might be the cause of anti-social behavior in autistic people (Panksepp 1979). Thus, perhaps autistic individuals do not socialize because they have a condition that allows that to experience pleasurable sensations within themselves.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/ ... /_383.html



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24 Jan 2008, 12:25 am

I want a cure so I can have real life friends. :P



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24 Jan 2008, 12:34 am

For aspergers I think that a person should decide if they want to take the cure or not, fur autism, maybe it would be best. I've been around twin boys way down on the spectrum, one could barely function in school and was teased constantly, the other needed to wear an adult diaper, couldn't walk, could barely talk, and stayed at home all the time. They need constant care and can't function on their own. ((I did teach the first one how to make basic no cooking required foods though)) Maybe someone like them would benifit from a 'cure'.