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19 Jan 2008, 8:55 pm

Some people claim to have the 6th sense of being able to see a person's aura, that normally
invisible electrical field around a person. Others, the NT's as they are called, seem to be
able to recognize another's "personal space" and know when standing too close to someone
or just a bit too far away... Different types of people have different "personal space"
requirements... Such as, a celebrity will require a greater distance usually than just a normal
worker-type person. NT's seem to automatically be able to differentiate and know when
they are violating someone's "personal space"....

As a person with an autistic spectrum disorder called NLD or PDD, I am just not able to "see" or recognize "personal space" as well just as most people can't "see" aura's around people... Now, I don't go up hugging people or anything like that.. it's subtle.. and sometimes I stand too FAR away. Is there some way to improve the ability to do this -- to just be able to recognize someone's personal space so that they won't immediately assume that I'm a very rude person for violating it and therefore, attack me? (verbally attack or otherwise or fire me, etc.?)



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19 Jan 2008, 9:03 pm

MusicMaker1 wrote:
As a person with an autistic spectrum disorder called NLD or PDD, I am just not able to "see" or recognize "personal space" just as most people can't "see" aura's around people... Is there some way to improve the ability to do this -- to just be able to recognize someone's personal space so that they won't immediately assume that I'm a very rude person for violating it and therefore, attack me? (verbally attack or otherwise or fire me, etc.?)


It isn't for YOU to SEE. Many IGNORE it! Frankly, MINE is 3 feet. That USED to be the NORMAL space in the US. In western europe it USED to be about 2 feet. In some other areas it is about 1 foot or less.

BTW a foot is about 31cm



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19 Jan 2008, 9:12 pm

MusicMaker1 wrote:

As a person with an autistic spectrum disorder called NLD or PDD, I am just not able to "see" or recognize "personal space" just as most people can't "see" aura's around people... Is there some way to improve the ability to do this -- to just be able to recognize someone's personal space so that they won't immediately assume that I'm a very rude person for violating it and therefore, attack me? (verbally attack or otherwise or fire me, etc.?)


um... why don't you just err on the side of caution and give other people plenty of space?


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19 Jan 2008, 9:30 pm

Vell...being the kind of person that I am, I have a huge bubble of personal space around me...I don't like to be touched unexpectedly...don't generally like to touch other people who I am not comfortable with.....I am too busy guarding my own personal space to um....invade others...

I have know others AS-types who have no concept of personal space at all and always get way too close for comfort....



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19 Jan 2008, 9:34 pm

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Vell...being the kind of person that I am, I have a huge bubble of personal space around me...I don't like to be touched unexpectedly...don't generally like to touch other people who I am not comfortable with.....I am too busy guarding my own personal space to um....invade others...


yeah, this is pretty much me too.


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19 Jan 2008, 10:30 pm

I don't go up and touch people.. I'm not the "touchy-feely" type... Sometimes I don't stand close enough and people get impatient because I didn't realize their irritation when I didn't immediately recognize the hand signals motioning me over. I take a class right now that involves working in close proximity to others sometimes around electronics. If I'm standing too far away, the teacher thinks I'm not interested or not willing to participate as much... other times, I get too close and irritate people? It's just hard to know... that's all...

I was wondering if there was some list of rules out there concerning this...?? or some info??

One time my ex-yoga teacher told me "Don't you sense my aura, my presence? I'm very powerful." She was telling me I was standing too close and that I wasn't respecting her... as if to say that I was standing too close to such a powerful person and that I apparently was in her "aura"... I moved back and nodded.. but the truth was that I did NOT see or sense her aura At ALL!! I just was trying not to offend her further.... Do any of you sense this stuff?



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19 Jan 2008, 11:45 pm

MusicMaker1 wrote:
I don't go up and touch people.. I'm not the "touchy-feely" type... Sometimes I don't stand close enough and people get impatient because I didn't realize their irritation when I didn't immediately recognize the hand signals motioning me over. I take a class right now that involves working in close proximity to others sometimes around electronics. If I'm standing too far away, the teacher thinks I'm not interested or not willing to participate as much... other times, I get too close and irritate people? It's just hard to know... that's all...

I was wondering if there was some list of rules out there concerning this...?? or some info??

One time my ex-yoga teacher told me "Don't you sense my aura, my presence? I'm very powerful." She was telling me I was standing too close and that I wasn't respecting her... as if to say that I was standing too close to such a powerful person and that I apparently was in her "aura"... I moved back and nodded.. but the truth was that I did NOT see or sense her aura At ALL!! I just was trying not to offend her further.... Do any of you sense this stuff?


Some people are ***************IDIOTS****************! They are like the people that bump me and then ******TO APOLOGIZE****** must tap me again to say they are sorry! I guess I should be happy they didn't hit me with their car.

For your electronics teacher, just let the person know you are interested. The YOGA "teacher" sounds like a KOOK!



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20 Jan 2008, 12:14 am

MusicMaker1 wrote:
I don't go up and touch people.. I'm not the "touchy-feely" type... Sometimes I don't stand close enough and people get impatient because I didn't realize their irritation when I didn't immediately recognize the hand signals motioning me over. I take a class right now that involves working in close proximity to others sometimes around electronics. If I'm standing too far away, the teacher thinks I'm not interested or not willing to participate as much... other times, I get too close and irritate people? It's just hard to know... that's all...

I was wondering if there was some list of rules out there concerning this...?? or some info??

One time my ex-yoga teacher told me "Don't you sense my aura, my presence? I'm very powerful." She was telling me I was standing too close and that I wasn't respecting her... as if to say that I was standing too close to such a powerful person and that I apparently was in her "aura"... I moved back and nodded.. but the truth was that I did NOT see or sense her aura At ALL!! I just was trying not to offend her further.... Do any of you sense this stuff?


I'm sorry to tell you this, but she is an idiot. Real power does not act like that.



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20 Jan 2008, 1:44 am

A nice rule to go by is that you should be able to touch the person comfortably with just your fingertips without leaning forward/backward. In a setting that is more cramped, e.g. at a party, you would probably stand a whole lot closer - a good rule there is to try and not touch anyone, and you're safe.



20 Jan 2008, 4:22 am

Everyone has their own personal space but the majority of people, theirs is three feet. If you stand closer to them than that, then you are in their personal space. My mother told me stand three feet away from people. If they are my arm length away, I am giving them enough space, if I am unable to stretch out my whole arm without going past them or by them, then I am in their space so back up.

Using this method really helps. But only time you can stand very close to them is if you are in a really crowded place like being in an elevator with other people.


If lot of people don't like being touched by strangers, then this isn't a AS thing at all, it's a personality trait. Maybe the reason why doctors thought it's AS because we make a big deal out of it while lot of other people just ignore it.



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20 Jan 2008, 7:24 am

LadyMahler wrote:
A nice rule to go by is that you should be able to touch the person comfortably with just your fingertips without leaning forward/backward. In a setting that is more cramped, e.g. at a party, you would probably stand a whole lot closer - a good rule there is to try and not touch anyone, and you're safe.


MY rule is better! Frankly, I have gone YEARS without my touching a person, and TRY to go through my life without them touching me! I ALSO don't want your spit, breath, etc... Unless you are some woman I REALLY like, I would rather think you are just a dream, with no more mass than one.



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20 Jan 2008, 8:52 am

An arm's length away is the common rule, and I also recognize it as the size of my comfort zone.



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20 Jan 2008, 9:41 am

I think I read somewhere that 18 inches is the magic distance for standing beside other people. Which makes sense, because that's also the distance covered in an average step (useful to know if you're building stairs!), so basically you're one step away from someone.



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20 Jan 2008, 9:54 am

zee wrote:
I think I read somewhere that 18 inches is the magic distance for standing beside other people. Which makes sense, because that's also the distance covered in an average step (useful to know if you're building stairs!), so basically you're one step away from someone.


Well, what I said is LAW for me! It like 30+ inches! And how does 18" make sense because it is a step away? That has NOTHING to do with anything!

ALSO, the US has building codes and they INCLUDE stairs! You BETTER follow them, at least in the US! Failure to do so can cause you a LOT of money to redo stairs and, if you don't, you could end up spending MILLIONS if someone gets injured.

BTW My average pace is probably closer to 23"!



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20 Jan 2008, 10:09 am

I'm not sure about the specific codes, but when you're building steps the rise and the run should add up to 18".
A step is just a natural distance to be away from a person. Of course, more space is better, but not always possible when you're waiting at a bus stop with 50 other people.