The Two Leading Causes of Autism

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One is your Mom and the other is your Dad.

Sure, there are most likely other causes and tiggers, but for the most part, it is genetic.

So if you want to stop the spread of Autism and Aspergers, it would be to sterilize anyone likely to be a carrier of the Autism.

Best,

Idaho Aspie
www.AllThingsAspergers.com

I am assuming this is sarcasm? I think both my daughter and I have AS and I certainly wouldn't tell her to not have kids someday nor would I wish she wasn't here.

He's joking.


Once my mom said that she should never have had children and she said it a few times trying to get me to sympathize with her. I said "So you wish I didn't exist?" and she said, "No, I just shouldn't have had children!" and she was so upset by something that meant like nothing. It was a petty little squabble that made her seriously depressed.

IdahoAspie, that's the best laugh I've had since... well... since I read lastcrazyhorn's post with the funny Batman quotes.

Hee! Move over, Jonathan Swift; IdahoAspie has come to town.

As with any good satire, there's a hard kernel of truth in it. Neurotypicals beget autists. And vice-versa.

"One is your Mom and the other is your Dad. " Funny I think your post is in response to my "two possible treatable causes of autism" post that listed possible infectious causes. Autistic traits run in my family too. I always thought it was genetic too. My mind changed when alternative treatments worked for me as well as for a family member with CFS symptoms. The genes found so far for autism are the same ones associated with Lyme, CFS, and autoimmune diseases. The brain imaging studies have found the same abnormalities. If the environmental causes are common (such as vaccines) then it would appear to be genetic. Also, viruses (found in vaccines) may be contagious so that's why it may run in families. I'm saying some negative symptoms can be treated. I would NEVER want to sterilize, abort, or anything like that to stop or prevent autism.

They helped you because they treated symptoms - not the root condition. As far as the root condition goes it hasn't been touched.

Again - you are reacting to a placebo when it comes to the root condition.

No, it's called alleviating symptoms that have been awful for him/his family.

Why are you all so insistent upon taking good things away from other people? Why the need to put others down because their beliefs don't exactly fit into yours?

If you've ever seen anyone suffering from CFS you'd know how crippling and awful it can be. If he's found a way to beat it then that's absolutely fantastic - why put it down?

Once again, he's treating symptoms of CFS.

Not the entire thing.

Does it matter? If it's the difference between being bed-ridden, depressed and exhausted or being out and about and having some level of normality, does it matter? Again, why take that away from people?

Beau99 wrote:

Beau-give up, I did. It's like trying to convince a recent devout convert to some religion that praying to a plastic chicken that glows in the dark is not only silly, it's nuts... It won't work. True believer's are true believer's. Faith can't be shaken by facts, that's why it's faith. And why holistic snake oil salesmen still make fortunes on the internet and people still die from taking toxic crap they buy in the mail... Niven and Pournelle were right, "Think of it as evolution in action...".

Why would I take mail-order junk from some fraud on the internet sent in the post? You'd have to be really stupid.

Not trusting pharmaceutical companies who make trillions from people being sick each year and preferring safer, natural, proven and widely-used alternatives doesn't make you an idiot, and it doesn't mean your sense of judgement is non-existent. Get a grip.

I'm confused about the Lyme part. Lyme isn't genetic, it's infectious.

As for CFS, I've experienced partial remissions before, without doing anything special beforehand, but if I'd just done something to try to treat it, I'm sure I'd think it caused the remission. Having a remission of CFS is great, and I don't think it takes anything away from that to think that doing something right before it caused the remission.

I once had a severe asthma attack right after taking a medication. It turned out the medication had nothing to do with the asthma attack, but I thought for awhile it did. It's that kind of thing. When people say that this might not be what really caused the asthma attack, or the remission, or something, they're not putting someone down (or they ought not to be, if they are they're the ones doing something wrong -- like the evolution in action comment... yuck, degrading people isn't necessary), it's not like calling someone stupid, it's just saying, it's human nature (in all of us, not just the person being talked to) to equate two things happening right near each other with one causing the other, especially if the intent was to cause the other or if it seems likely one would. Doesn't mean it did, and doesn't take anything away from the second thing if the second thing is a good thing.

Lyme isn't genetic. What I'm saying is the susceptibility genes for autism are the same as the susceptibility genes Lyme and other autoimmune disorders. If 100 people are exposed to the Lyme bacterium, genetics will determine who gets infected and develops Lyme disease.

Regarding remissions after treatments, I have the same problem. When I went on the gfcf diet, I didn't know for sure it helped. That's why I went on and off it a few times to see whether I consistently improved and worsened. It was consistent so that's how I know it works.

I never did.

What makes people sick is the way drugs etc are administered, not the drugs themselves (I'm talking about prescription drugs - not illicit by the way). That applies for the alternatives as well.

If someone is suffering and there is a way to treat suffering, as long as th treatment is not in itself harmful I say OK.
Of course there will be occasions that it comes to light sometimes years later that these pills or whatever were bad, dangerous, had side effects or whatever, but you have to place a certain amount of trust in things like this.