For curebie hating, NT-bashing, holier than thou aspies
OH EVERYBODY STOP BEING OFFENDED. Neither anti-cure posts nor pro-cure posts are offensive. It's called a "debate", and it's nothing to be afraid of.
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MissPickwickian wrote:
Awwww MAN!! !!
<snuffs out torch and hides pitchfork....>
Yes, Ma'am....
But I try and get all my exercise by jumping to conclusions!! !
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I tried to get in touch with my feminine side.... but it got a restraining order.....
natty,
I wish I knew. High, Low, Middle, what day of the week, and what subject.
My lacks, can't dance, and have nothing for music, can't draw, but do, and never seem to get any better. I do not remember faces, I avoid interacting with people other than when I am running an act, which I do well for a while.
My good points are I relate to machines. I relate to people by speaking on behalf of machines.
I see structures, systems, how things fit together. I have a great memory, but not for some ordinary tasks.
I got through life because I could fix things, and some of them were very expensive things. My dancing was with a VW bug, and after a day, it was worth $1000 more than I had in it. That was a month's pay for most.
When computers came along, they were just a machine to me. I saw what they could do, and went into digital printing. I publish books, and do fine art printing.
Machines network, and my relationship with other people is through machines, our networks connect.
I never did understand people. So I became a historian, Now I know all about them, and do not understand them, but I do write books.
Applied memory, machines, systems, and by the tests around here, Low Functioning Autistic. I have been called worse.
I am very well read. Talented in Science and Mechanics, and as I have such a limited range, I have a very high functional IQ in a few things. I am not a savant, I worked hard to learn, and learn, and learn, till I ran out of things to learn, then created new knowledge, and patented it.
That brought out a bigger wave of thieves than the ones who stole my tools many times. So I stopped patenting and hold the rest as secrets.
It does not take much to be a thief, so my books, printing, are much too complex to steal. People will steal the product of your labor, but never the labor part.
So now I live in isolation, connecting only with people for a purpose.
The web, and Wrong Planet, have given me a worldwide market, and a community.
I survive, and have a community.
I agree with your concept of pan autism. I see no differance across the spectrum. The traits we have in common over rule our differances, and do set us apart.
Genetics prolly plays a big role in it since I have a cousin with autism , a dad and sister with ADD, and a history of autistic disorders on my mom's side of the family. However, I also find the studies on the effects of multple vaccinations given to all infants in a very short period of time and how such a strain on the body of the child can cause, or at least worsen a child's autistic symtoms... some studies suggest that auties don't get rid of mercury from their systems as effectively as normal people or even aspies (aspies process mercury normally) and that the mercury content in the vaccines that is harmless to normal children builds up in the system of auties and can cause or worsen symptoms. I don't want a cure, simply because I have learned to cope with the difficulties that asperger's causes me and I enjoy the unique strengths that come with it. I just see it as being wired differently our brains and nervous systems just function differently than the majority of the population.
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-Bigfoot IS blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer?s
fault. He's a large, out-of-focus monster, and that's extra scary to me.
-If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see it, do the other trees make fun of it?
OH EVERYBODY STOP BEING OFFENDED. Neither anti-cure posts nor pro-cure posts are offensive. It's called a "debate", and it's nothing to be afraid of.
I take it you haven't been called "brain damaged" then? There is plenty of offense in talk of a "cure". Just as much as there is talking about fiddling with human DNA to create things like designer babies and worse still clones.
And Cockney - there are people around who WILL force a cure on us, or at the very least push the point very hard.
Zendell, the problem with DAN! doctors is that they are promoting a CURE. It creates false hope because as Beau rightly points out, it doesn't make anyone less Autistic. Their treatment does NOT cure, and it only improves some - because they have extra issues that (by themselves) have nothing to do with the Spectrum.
OH EVERYBODY STOP BEING OFFENDED. Neither anti-cure posts nor pro-cure posts are offensive. It's called a "debate", and it's nothing to be afraid of.
I take it you haven't been called "brain damaged" then? There is plenty of offense in talk of a "cure". Just as much as there is talking about fiddling with human DNA to create things like designer babies and worse still clones.
And Cockney - there are people around who WILL force a cure on us, or at the very least push the point very hard.
Zendell, the problem with DAN! doctors is that they are promoting a CURE. It creates false hope because as Beau rightly points out, it doesn't make anyone less Autistic. Their treatment does NOT cure, and it only improves some - because they have extra issues that (by themselves) have nothing to do with the Spectrum.
You're right. "Yes to cure" and "no to cure" are not intrinsically offensive statements, but namecalling is rarely okay.
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There was the burning at the stake cure,
There was the chained to a wall cure,
there was the ice pick cure,
there was the massive doses of Thorizine cure,
Then there was a short peroid without cure,
that resulted in computers and the internet.
Now you are back with an imaginary cure bandwagon.
You are going to have a petition, get a law passed.
There is no cure.
There is no reason for pro cure groups except to line their own pockets.
They manage to pocket half of 20 million,
when billions are being spent on real research,
Autism is not the reason the brain is studied.
This has nothing to do with who is for or against, the study goes on.
It is doubtful there could be a cure.
If there was, it would be free choice,
The problem with you is talking endlessly about something that does not exist, and may never.
Yet you freely use this club on everyone who is living their life as well as they can.
You have nothing to do with my life, or ongoing scientific research.
You are a one trick pony. A shallow single issue ranter on a soapbox.
You are here deamonizing people who wish to live as best they can in the existing reality.
The reason there is no cure is because of Aspies?
functioning autistics are ruining it for everyone?
It is not WP, it is just me.
I am blocking the cure, and the adoption of the Metric System.
You are certainly something. What that is, I don't know. Am I to retort to you as you have to me, and mock you, dismiss you, accuse you of being obsessed and pretend that you have no valid opinion?
No. I think I'll just tell you once more, I am an Aspie, and hae been diagnosed for over half of my life, since my childhood, and I have lived ten years with AS to be told that I'm not by someone who doesn't even know if they themselves are.
ToadOfSteel, I know all too well what it's like to be bullied. They even came close to actually killing me more than once. Several times I tried to kill myself. So don't act like I don't have the same experience as you; I just know that it was the bullies, and not the normal students. Not all NTs are that mob. If I can live through what I have, through the pain, the emotions, the attempts to take my own life, and be able to feel anything other than black hatred for everyone around me, you ought to be able to do the same.
Try being seconds from death and laughing, Toad. Try it on for size before telling someone that they obviously never had things tough.
You wouldn't, your parents wouldn't, but would he? Only he could really say, and I'm not one for putting words in other people's mouths.
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Back in the days when autism was discovered, there was a theory that described the role of "refrigerator mothers".
It referred to a mother/primary caregiver who is not able to connect emotionally with the baby. At age two yrs humans detach from the mother and become aware of The Self (their own identity). This doesn't happen with highly sensitive people, they experience the world as such a harsh environment, that they turn inwards (become frozen) and are reliant on the mother for basic needs (disabled) for the rest of their lives. They become low functioning autistic.
I read up on it because my father's sister is l-f autistic and he is AS. My grandmother fits the profile: rigid, emotionally cold and clueless (she was prob also on the spectrum, which ties in with the genetic link). There seem to be a return to this theory as far as pinpointing causes are concerned. I think that many times a gut feeling is the best to persue.
However, money is not being made available for these studies in the US because, as in every respected society, no-one wants to blame the parents.
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It referred to a mother/primary caregiver who is not able to connect emotionally with the baby. At age two yrs humans detach from the mother and become aware of The Self (their own identity). This doesn't happen with highly sensitive people, they experience the world as such a harsh environment, that they turn inwards (become frozen) and are reliant on the mother for basic needs (disabled) for the rest of their lives. They become low functioning autistic.
I read up on it because my father's sister is l-f autistic and he is AS. My grandmother fits the profile: rigid, emotionally cold and clueless (she was prob also on the spectrum, which ties in with the genetic link). There seem to be a return to this theory as far as pinpointing causes are concerned. I think that many times a gut feeling is the best to persue.
However, money is not being made available for these studies in the US because, as in every respected society, no-one wants to blame the parents.
when in doubt, blame mom.
couldn't this just support AS/Autism running thorugh families? like, mom is distant BECAUSE she is on the spectrum? ETA: i know you mentioned this, i meant that couldn't it be ENTIRELY because of genetics?
my sister were raised separately with no knowledge of the other. met when i was 17 and she was 21.
apart from age, we are identical. her dx led me to get a dx. we theorize is came from our biological father, whose mom is supposedly really awesome (didn't get to know her well before i told bio-dad to get the hell out of my life).
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