the "global warming" theory of autism

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So many things are being attributed to global warming these days. In particular, the increase in the number of devastating hurricanes and tornadoes. Now, I present a theory for the rise in autism rates that is based on an increase in the amount of cosmic radiation due to a man-made increase of the greenhouse effect, which is mostly known for causing global warming.

WHAT IS THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT?

Some cosmic radiation from space reflects off the surface of the earth and back into space. Some cosmic radiation, however, becomes "trapped" due to the greenhouse effect. Because of the green house effect, the cosmic radiation, instead of going straight back out into space after being reflected from the earth's surface, is reflected BACK onto the surface of the earth. (This heats the air, causing global warming.)

MAIN POINTS

(1)

Scientific studies show that we humans have emitted gases and particles into the atmosphere, adding to those naturally there, to increase the greenhouse effect.*

(2)

Because of the increased greenhouse effect that is due to man-made processes, each of us is probably also receiving an increased dosage of cosmic radiation.

(3)

Cosmic radiation can cause genes to mutate or break down.

(4)

Recent studies have shown that up to 10% of autism cases are caused by genetic mutations or "errors." The amount of autism cases actually caused by genetics is probably much more than that percentage.

CONCLUSION

In short, the rate of autism may be rising along with the amount of cosmic radiation hitting the earth's surface, which is a result of man-made processes increasing the greenhouse effect.




* The point of this thread is not to debate global warming. Most reputable scientists agree that man made processes are increasing greenhouse effect and thereby causing global warming. What some of them disagree on, still, is whether something should be done about it, whether global warming is really something we should be worried about. Perhaps the effects of increased cosmic radiation on humans is something that needs to be investigated in addition to the other possible environmental impacts.

** I am not a scientist and could be entirely wrong on the above theory. It might be that the vast percentage autism cases have another cause, but only 0.99% are caused by the increased cosmic radiation resulting from increasing greenhouse effect. Whatever the case may be, this was a thought experiment that I found interesting.

Yes to all of the above, but Earth has never had a normal climate.

The cosmic does not warm the planet, greenhouse, that is sunlight, but we do get hit with Super Nova waves on a regular basis, which change the climate, which do match well with major periods of extinction and mutation.

Since there is no such thing as unmutation, we are in for the ride, come what may.

Nine times 90+% of life has been destroyed, now those were bad days.

Triple the number of people, triple the number of autistics, which is the problem?

The cosmic radiation that can cause mutations is not the radiation that can be trapped by greenhouse gasses.

That is a good point, one which I had thought of myself. The fact is that more cosmic waves of some type and wavelength ARE being trapped. My consideration for the above hypothesis was that the cosmic radiation would be within a range of wavelengths capable of producing genetic mutations or "errors."

Someone out there ought to know whether UV rays are among those being trapped by greenhouse gases. UV radiation can cause genetic mutations resulting in melanoma and other skin diseases, and is used in laboratory experiments to kill off bacteria in petri dishes.

1. Man caused GW is nonsense and just another in a long line of catastrophes cocked up by leftists to further their agenda of treaties and taxes and huge government by way of irrational fear.

2. If they had taught instead of frightened, then you yould have known of Inventor's points.

3. According to the same climate specialists, the little ice age was solar caused and cooler by a couple of degrees a few hindred years ago

And about 1000 AD was the little climatic optimum - a couple of degrees warmer than present, Nice days too.

4. There is a mass extinction approximately every fifty millipn years. Last one - fifty million ago.

5. The climate was far more variably nasty until about 20,000 years ago. That is about when human culture began. . .conicidence?

6. While scientific method is useful, most scientific truths have short shelf lives.

Republican argument for global warming: Well...it's kind of possible that something else COULD have caused global warming...so ahh we're not gonna do anything about...

I have been killed by:

DDT

nuklyur combat toe to toe with the rooskies

nuke plant meltdown

chemical plant malfunction

global famine

population bomb

electromagnetic fields

rf radiation including my microwave

heterosexual AIDS epidemic

ebola

saccharine

cyclamates

BHA

BHT

marischino cherries

alar

pesticieds

fungus

Corvair

global cooling

nuclear winter

the big quake that dumps CA into the sea

salt

saturated fat

second hand smoke

carbohydrates

eggs

coffee

illegal immegrants

nuclear waste storage and transport

aspartame

sugar

white bread

africanized bees

genetically altered foods

irradiated foods

mad cow disease

mercury in fish

mercury in batteries

mercury in thermometers
(but not the mercury in fluorescent bulbs!)

Nixon's Plumbers Unit

Eschalon

Club Gitmo

Arabs

acid rain

Wait! I am still alive! None of these killed me!

It is saaid that world temperatures and CO2 are rising at the same rate. . .

but look up definition of rate, the statement of same rates is a meaningless lie

F or C, it makes a difference in slope

frequently T rises ahead of CO2, but then - higher T drives CO2 out oof aqueous solution! Which is cart which is horse?

Was there no Little Climatic Optimum then?

Was there no Little Ice Age?

How did ancestors cross Bering land bridge if sea level has been constant?

Ever study stability modes?

Ever study solar dynamics?

"Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence." Where is evidence to support anthrocgenic global warming?

Know that several other bodies in our solar system are warming too?

I don't preach any bloody party's position. The assertions of GW alarmists are based upon feaeful emotional ignorance.

Infrared waves are trapped by CO2, Cosmic rays are only stopped by Lead, etc. No worries there.

I think it's more of the 'diagnosis de jour'...it's new, it's hip, it's the new Black. Everyone wants to be like us. In a few years, people will be...well, diferent... How many people are diagnosed with 'dementia preacox', nowadays, anyway?

nutbag wrote:

Oh thank Gaia.... I've been blaming myself because I have to take a huge amount of fiber daily and emit more methane than the average dairy herd... I thought it was all MY fault.

Cosmic radiation is not trapped by greenhouse gases. Solar radiation is - visible and ultraviolet frequencies enter the atmosphere, lose energy, and are supposed to be emitted later as infrared - "heat" - radiation. This process is, of course, less efficient, which is why our planet doesn't freeze most of the time. However, the "greenhouse gases", as they have been dubbed, interfere with this reradiation process, leading to heating of the planet.

Whether you would like to believe the base cause to be "natural" or anthropogenic (a false dichotomy, in my opinion - why should the works of man be held as less "natural" than the works of any other animals?), the fact of global warming can only be denied by utterly ignoring the evidence, and the conclusions of every reputable atmospheric scientist. Given this fact, does it not make sense to reduce the only factors we can control - the man-made ones? Why actively work to make things worse?

How did ancestors cross Bering land bridge if sea level has been constant?

How did this kill ya?

Anyways... from what I understand the sea level has not been constant. Afterall when much of Earths water is trapped as ice that formed the glacers sea levels will of course drop.

Ansestors supposedly came over to North America during the end of the last Ice Age, so as the glacers melted (and I live right on lake ontario, which was carved supposedly by such sheets of ice) the seas rose cause their was more water in liquid form.

22,000 years ago a metor struck in Mauritania, a big one. One Kilometer crater.

It had been warmer than today, sea level was higher, but in a few years, due to dust blocking sunlight, it started snowing, about six inches a day, for a total of 35 miles over perhaps a thousand years. It compacted to three miles of ice.

By 20,000 years ago sea level was 440 foot lower than today, the Bering land bridge, and all of the continental shelves were exposed.

It stayed that way for 8,000 years. This is the normal climate.

In the last 160,000 years, less than 20,000 have been warm. Three periods, 5,000, 5,000, and this long one that has lasted 10,000. We are in an ice age, with short interglaciels.

13,000 years ago the Vela-x Super Nova went off. within a thousand years most of the large animals died, and the three miles of ice melted, the oceans rose 440 foot, which still continues, sea level has been rising six inches every hundred years.

The last two times it was as warm as now, sea level was as high as now, a little shade from a meteor kicking up dust, or volcanos, we are entering a geologicaly active period, more volcanos, earthquakes, it snowed six inches a day for a thousand years. Climate will soon return to normal.

In the year 700, the Black Sea and the Nile froze, in the years leading up to the little ice age, 1100, grapes were grown in Scotland, humans had nothing to do with most of the climate change we know of.

My bet would be ice again. One of the big ones that lasts.

Our last climate cycle, the warming since 1500 that has produced massive agraculture is an extreamly long period of constant climate. Truely odd in the records. 1500 is when a Supernova formed the Crab Nebula, they do tend to produce warm periods.

Krakatoa managed to cool the planet for a decade during a warming trend. If it had happened when a warming trend had peaked, it could have triggered an ice age. Something will.

Eating more fiber prevents ice ages.

When a person says that "every reputable scientist agrees that man is causing GW" his logic runs as follows:

all reputable scientist agrees

if a scientist disagrees he is disreputable

that scientist disagrees

therefore he is dispeputable

look, all reputable scientists agree

I was right all along!

Cool logic it is, it keeps tens of thousands of scientists - including a Weather Channel cofounder from having a voice. It is the same thinking that allowed the Catholic Church to kill witches.

Recently, a scientist found that solar activity is lessening (study solar dynamics and syability modes) (Sol has been very active - far moreso than during Little Ice Age - surprise) and says we are due to cool off and the sun may even be headed for a Maunder Monimum. Another scientist (several indeed) say that evidence shows a peak T about ten years ago.

Hey! any of you true beleivers know about the difference between calculated - and apparent mathematical accuracy, and supportable accuracy?

The GW folks haven't TAUGHT anyone anything.

You don't seem to have much of an idea on how science works. Human influenced climate change is supported by the majority of scientists for good reason - the evidence available points towards it. Most of the scientists I've seen that oppose it are either not qualified in a relevant area or have connections to companies who have interests in technologies and products that are contributing to the problem.

Getting into politics, it's true that there are more leftists and libertarians that agree with the theory. This is partly because most conservatives by their nature aren't as open minded towards new ideas.

On topic, I have my doubts about the OP's theory. Cosmic radiation doesn't have a great deal (or any for that matter) of connection to climate change. It's Solar radiation and the prevalence of elements in the atmosphere reflecting that radiation that's important. It's also important to remember that correlation doesn't always equal causation.

How Science works? Science is not a Democracy, majority rules does not apply. Do Humans cause global warming? Yes they are warmer than the surface of the planet. Does their heating, cooling, and paving affect the climate? Yes. But the volcano in Equador is doing it's bit too.

CO2 rises during past warming periods, when there were no human causes. Humans did not start or end the last Ice Age, or the one before. It is not humans causing the ice, CO2, caps on Mars to melt.

When a Supernova goes off the first wave blows away the Ozone layer, some say Vela-x only blew away half, and hits the planet with Gamma and X-rays, which continue into the rock, and there give up their energy as heat. Without an Ozone layer, the sun is not filtered, particularly the UV, so raw sunlight reaches the surface. Gamma, X-rays, and UV, cause mutation, and worse.

When a meteor kicks up a cubic mile of dust, the land cools faster than the water, and when there is enough differance, it starts snowing. Once the surface is covered in snow, white, it reflects sunlight, cooling more, and the process runs till the ocean is too salty to give up more water as vapor.

All of these major changes happened without human involvment. All of human heat production is but a drop in the bucket compared to the heat balance that starts or ends Ice Ages.

True, Al (Carbon Tax) Gore thinks that when I make a pot of coffee, I am the problem, and should be taxed. To pay that tax I have to work harder, and generate more heat. Collecting that tax means more heat generating government.

Worse, I am in business, so I should be made to collect that tax from my customers, keep records, become subject to punishment, and do it all for free. The tax on my time is ignored, time is all I have.
This burden, collecting taxes based on bad science, which only amounts to a few hundred dollars, takes a full time employee, costing $2000 a month to keep up with, or everything I have worked for can be taken away, by government agents with guns.

At our usual 5% profit, I have to increase sales $40,000 a year, to break even. Or move the production to Mexico. Hola!

The way Science works, is putting all of the known facts on the table, the historic, a baseline, short term effects, and economic costs. Human caused global warming is a maybe, and minor factor, driving business and jobs out of the country by swaying public opinion and ruling by 51% Mob Rule, is very real.

Your concept that nutbag does not understand how Science works, then expressing your point in Political terms, shows you cannot see the differance, between Science and Politics. Greenhouse gasses account for only a small part of what can be observed in solar variation. Humans might be 1% of the cause.

Science is still looking, it is not your hired political right or left lapdogs. Those who have made up their minds have given up Science. Science is an open question, not an answer. Politics is the wrong answer to the wrong question. What you are calling Science I would call Propaganda.

Economics is very real, and the Propaganda Machine has results. One of the main reasons for moving to Mexico is, they give a ten year deal, one structure, no change, ten years. To invest, we must be able to plan ahead. The Political control of Science is a last straw.

Most Scientists disagree about everything, that is the job, to bring up all, and fight it out. The question is not humans, all will agree they are a minor factor, but the longer term natural cycles, and random events, that affect us.

Scientists live to be proven or disproven, so where is your proof?

I bring up background, the last 160,000 years, the last 22,000 years, show there is not a normal climate, and the variations are a heat exchange greater than humans could produce, and humans were very minor during most of that time. Mars is warming due to solar changes, not humans.

I think that Al Carbon Tax Gore will become Al Ice Tax Gore.

There is a lot more evidence that global warming was caused by the slaughter of 90,000,000 Buffalo on the Great Plains. That and farming has started a drought cycle, which warms and dries the land, over a huge area, and is spreading rapidly. This huge heat island is causing the rain to fall in California, and storms along all coasts, for the moist air cannot move inland.

That was caused by humans, the effects are well documented, and restoring open range and Buffalo herds is the place to fight man made climate destruction.

Like New Orleans, most of these problems track back to government causes, so I do not see government as a solution.

Northern Mexico has a great climate during an ice age.

'man-made' global warming is the biggest crock of crap that the counter-culture has ever tried to get over on the consumer