Autism DX: Soak it for all its worth
I am not hired, I am sued, I am mistreated, beaten up, laughed at, broke, single, I have bad credit, never given promotions, never invited to parties or even out to lunch, I have no money, and no future. All this because I have Autism.
So my question is, if society spits on me and keeps me down because I am Autistic, why shouldn't I then try to get all that I can for it? Why should I be forced to be someone else's pimp, clown, toy, laborer, and one night stand, or sucker for a lousy (even criminal) contract? What do I get? Seems like the only thing I get is the short end of the stick every time, because there is ALWAYS someone out there willing to take advantage of me and out manouver me socially to get what's rightfully mine or what I deserved and worked hard for, and there is never ANYBODY to stop them from doing it to me.
For this, I say we should try and use Autism to get all we can from society, because, society uses and abuses us everyday, every way they can, and even when you don't know it. I say, take as big of a peice back as you can, because it still isn't going to be 1/10 of what society is stealing from you.
Having a bad day?
on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
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Sorry for your bad day, IdahoAspie!
I have had that happen to me, but I was never allowed to 'cash in' on it. I either worked to pay my bills or I lived in the woods, or on the steets. I got veneral disease early on and was never able to carry children so I never got on welfare. I tryed to get on disability, but that was 12 years ago and they never knew what was wrong with me, and anyway, when they tested my iq they wrote I was just 'difficult' not 'emotionally ret*d'.
so I had to keep on keepin' on any way I could. Family dead, not that they helped when I was alive (ran away to the woodstock festival at 17 when they finally put me in an institution.)
Have been running ever since
Merle
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Since I wasn't diagnosed with AS until my late forties, I never perceived myself to be at a disadvantage, neurologically. I didn't know that I could take that way out. I have had my share of being exploited, used, abused, cheated, and bullied. But I always viewed these happenings on a case by case basis. If a group of kids bullied me, I figured that they had issues, and were taking it out on me, because they would likely get away with it. I resented always being singled out for this behavior, but had nothing to blame it on, inside myself.
Now that I know about the AS, I have gained a lot of understanding as to just why certain things in my life went wrong. Oddly, many aspects of society expect you to take the attitude of the OP, who is no doubt feeling frustrated. Certain racial groups are always being profiled to be at higher risk for crime and exploitation of systems designed to help out, because they are seen to be not only inferior, but to be perceiving themselves that way, too. But I have always taken comfort in paying my own way. It serves as a constant reminder that I can do it, despite all the frustrations.
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on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
I just cannot seem to get ahead. I am so tired of being stomped on all day every day. It wears me out. Nobody cares, or sees me as anything other than as tool to their own means.
There are no laws, or people to protect me from all these a**holes out there taking a peice of me every day. I feel like soon there will be nothing left of me. I feel like a baby left naked out in the sun. Left to roast and toast to life's nasty elements.
Thanks for the response
I have had that happen to me, but I was never allowed to 'cash in' on it. I either worked to pay my bills or I lived in the woods, or on the steets. I got veneral disease early on and was never able to carry children so I never got on welfare. I tryed to get on disability, but that was 12 years ago and they never knew what was wrong with me, and anyway, when they tested my iq they wrote I was just 'difficult' not 'emotionally ret*d'.
so I had to keep on keepin' on any way I could. Family dead, not that they helped when I was alive (ran away to the woodstock festival at 17 when they finally put me in an institution.)
Have been running ever since
Merle
I don't think I could live in the woods, too many insects. I wouldn't mind hiding though, I like to do that a lot of times.
on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
I just cannot seem to get ahead. I am so tired of being stomped on all day every day. It wears me out. Nobody cares, or sees me as anything other than as tool to their own means.
There are no laws, or people to protect me from all these a**holes out there taking a peice of me every day. I feel like soon there will be nothing left of me. I feel like a baby left naked out in the sun. Left to roast and toast to life's nasty elements.
Thanks for the response
Hmm, I at certain times have felt the world against me. It's as if my whole reason of being just got thrown out the window. It takes me a while to get back to center. It is a tough time when you say to yourself "this isn't you, this isn't how it's suppose to be." Time, guy. Time.
on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
I just cannot seem to get ahead. I am so tired of being stomped on all day every day. It wears me out. Nobody cares, or sees me as anything other than as tool to their own means.
There are no laws, or people to protect me from all these a**holes out there taking a peice of me every day. I feel like soon there will be nothing left of me. I feel like a baby left naked out in the sun. Left to roast and toast to life's nasty elements.
Thanks for the response
Hmm, I at certain times have felt the world against me. It's as if my whole reason of being just got thrown out the window. It takes me a while to get back to center. It is a tough time when you say to yourself "this isn't you, this isn't how it's suppose to be." Time, guy. Time.
You are probably right. But it doesn't feel that way now.
on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
I just cannot seem to get ahead. I am so tired of being stomped on all day every day. It wears me out. Nobody cares, or sees me as anything other than as tool to their own means.
There are no laws, or people to protect me from all these a**holes out there taking a peice of me every day. I feel like soon there will be nothing left of me. I feel like a baby left naked out in the sun. Left to roast and toast to life's nasty elements.
Thanks for the response
Hmm, I at certain times have felt the world against me. It's as if my whole reason of being just got thrown out the window. It takes me a while to get back to center. It is a tough time when you say to yourself "this isn't you, this isn't how it's suppose to be." Time, guy. Time.
You are probably right. But it doesn't feel that way now.
You're not alone. I have similar thoughts all the time. But, I will say that, it does get easier as life goes on. It's your choice to swim, and not sink. I say, FTW and everyone(almost) in it!
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on topic: I am not one to ask for anything unless I absolutely need it. Even then I have trouble accepting help or assistance, or asking for paybacks. I have major difficulties with many tasks but I always tell mysel "This is what you wanted to do, stay on track and see the outcome." Whether it's beneficial or not, I feel much more accomplished when I actually pull through. I've never been one for assistance, even if I absolutely require it. I will struggle, and struggle, until I complete it. I don't need sympathy.
I just cannot seem to get ahead. I am so tired of being stomped on all day every day. It wears me out. Nobody cares, or sees me as anything other than as tool to their own means.
There are no laws, or people to protect me from all these a**holes out there taking a peice of me every day. I feel like soon there will be nothing left of me. I feel like a baby left naked out in the sun. Left to roast and toast to life's nasty elements.
Thanks for the response
Hmm, I at certain times have felt the world against me. It's as if my whole reason of being just got thrown out the window. It takes me a while to get back to center. It is a tough time when you say to yourself "this isn't you, this isn't how it's suppose to be." Time, guy. Time.
You are probably right. But it doesn't feel that way now.
You're not alone. I have similar thoughts all the time. But, I will say that, it does get easier as life goes on. It's your choice to swim, and not sink. I say, FTW and everyone(almost) in it!
I cannot even get health insurance to get meds to be stabilized. That is the catch 22. And nobody will give me health insurance and treat me for it. Pre existing exclusions. If I tell them, well insurance is unaffortable. If I don't, not treatment available. See the problem?
This world screws you pretty big time when you are Autistic.
IdahoAspie, I'm not recommending this but, I had to purposely break parole and get thrown into prison to get my meds. I was court ordered by the judge, to take my meds or go back to prison. When I was released, the state was required to continue paying for my prescriptions because, now they are considered health-sustaining. Welfare now pays the med bills. If I were you, I would see about getting on state assistance. I'm not sure, if you would have to see a shrink first, or not. It's worth a shot.
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If I knew how to do that stuff, believe me, I would! But nobody helps me navagate all that NT red tape. It is ironic that they try to save government money by making it impossible for anyone with any real disability from being able to navagate the sytem, giving the people with the less need the help.
What I need is something that motivates me along with increasing my social skills and something to keep me from meltdowns, and temper tamtrums.
Thanks for your advise/help
Painful irony, this wasteful and unnecessarily damaging system/pattern. Society (and bureaucracy) waits until one is an acute case (talk about institutionalized procrastination on pathological scale !) rather than investing in maintenence of functioning & prevention of crises.
Have been in these situations, paperwork (such as welfare applications) makes me crazy. Never knew I could request help filling out forms-then again, I didn't have this dx until a few years ago. Social workers (not all of them, but some individuals) were & continue to be great help in these areas for me. There's an advocacy group in my state that assists in finding which programs one is eligible for & helps people apply to get into programs that evaluate their disability/needs. That's a hurdle snagging many folks before they ever get any further in process.
Are there any possible inter-agency (or non-governmental, community-based) organizations in your area ? I had to call around many places using a pile of pamphlets I'd collected (from nearby agencies, offices, and grassroots groups), in order to finally find the right place to start (program that could help me when I didn't even know what was "wrong" with me, and that would help me despite that).
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Painful irony, this wasteful and unnecessarily damaging system/pattern. Society (and bureaucracy) waits until one is an acute case (talk about institutionalized procrastination on pathological scale !) rather than investing in maintenence of functioning & prevention of crises.
Have been in these situations, paperwork (such as welfare applications) makes me crazy. Never knew I could request help filling out forms-then again, I didn't have this dx until a few years ago. Social workers (not all of them, but some individuals) were & continue to be great help in these areas for me. There's an advocacy group in my state that assists in finding which programs one is eligible for & helps people apply to get into programs that evaluate their disability/needs. That's a hurdle snagging many folks before they ever get any further in process.
Are there any possible inter-agency (or non-governmental, community-based) organizations in your area ? I had to call around many places using a pile of pamphlets I'd collected (from nearby agencies, offices, and grassroots groups), in order to finally find the right place to start (program that could help me when I didn't even know what was "wrong" with me, and that would help me despite that).
I usually don't qualify. If you make more than $940 a month in Idaho you don't get much help, if any. And the waiting lists are huge. I am having trouble with my college loans because I don't make enough to make the payments. But I cannot get anyone to assist me in filling out the loan payments. Creditors are threatening to "garnish my wages' which is just silly, because I don't make enough for them garnish, it would a huge amount of work for them for nothing. They are in violation of the ADA by not providing me assistance, but I don't know how to make that clear to them, and they ignore my emails, and simple me send me more paperwork to fill out, which is irony of the situation.
The other problem is I work 9-5 so any of these services are no available to me time wise either. Idaho has little to none.
Best Regards,
Idaho Aspie
Because of all of the difficulties trying to survive with autism, has anyone here ever thought to turn to a Life of Crime?
I'M not saying that it would be a good choice, but I'm just wondering if anyone here has ever thought much about it? I can see where in utter frustration with life, with abuse at the workplace and bills piling up, that it could be something people might at times consider as a last option.. I've thought about living in the woods myself-- somehow trying to survive without having to show up at a workplace where I will be harassed and humiliated on a daily basis...
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So my question is, if society spits on me and keeps me down because I am Autistic, why shouldn't I then try to get all that I can for it? Why should I be forced to be someone else's pimp, clown, toy, laborer, and one night stand, or sucker for a lousy (even criminal) contract? What do I get? Seems like the only thing I get is the short end of the stick every time, because there is ALWAYS someone out there willing to take advantage of me and out manouver me socially to get what's rightfully mine or what I deserved and worked hard for, and there is never ANYBODY to stop them from doing it to me.
For this, I say we should try and use Autism to get all we can from society, because, society uses and abuses us everyday, every way they can, and even when you don't know it. I say, take as big of a peice back as you can, because it still isn't going to be 1/10 of what society is stealing from you.
I know you're having a hard time right now, and I don't know if you're 100% serious about this, but I just wanted to say that I don't think that should be the answer. NT's get screwed by society, too. Only they don't have a diagnosis they can use to sue for. Every day people don't get what they work hard for, get used, get abused, get things taken from them that are rightfully theirs. The world is unjust. I think it's hard to remember that when you're focused on your problems stemming from a specific source most of the time, but everyone else has their different versions of the same problems.
I'd consider this exploiting yourself. I think you deserve better than that.
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