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11 Mar 2008, 9:00 pm

Does anyone else have tachyphemia? It's the cluttering of words in speech. I've always had problems with this since I was a child and was wondering if any other aspies had the same issuses. I don't know if it's common or not though I have met other people with it and similar problems.

Here is the Wiki article: here

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Clutterers often also have reading and writing disorders, especially sprawling, disorderly handwriting, which poorly integrate ideas and space.[4] A clutterer described the feeling associated with a clutter as:

“ It feels like 1) about twenty thoughts explode on my mind all at once, and I need to express them all, 2) that when I'm trying to make a point, that I just remembered something that I was supposed to say, so the person can understand, and I need to interrupt myself to say something that I should have said before, and 3) that I need to constantly revise the sentences that I'm working on, to get it out right. [5] ”

Another clutterer wrote on an Internet support group:

“ I just seem to rush through the words, and often slur words together and/or mumble—and as a result I often have to slow down, concentrate, and repeat myself.

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Clutterers:

Are very unaware of their disorder
Perform better when speaking under stress
Have a hard time fluently giving long answers
Have hasty, repetitious, uninhibited, messy handwriting
Have little to no fear of their speech and are careless in speech
Therapy focuses on calling attention to speech details
Are typically outgoing or extroverted
Typically were never very fluent
Do not know exactly what they want to say, but say it anyway
Have disorganized, tangential, grammatically incorrect speech with word substitutions
Are impatient listeners, frequently interrupt, and have poor turn-taking skills in conversation

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11 Mar 2008, 9:12 pm

It's like I'm reading the opposite of me. So, no, I don't have it.

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11 Mar 2008, 9:38 pm

That's a lot like me.

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11 Mar 2008, 9:42 pm

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“ It feels like 1) about twenty thoughts explode on my mind all at once, and I need to express them all, 2) that when I'm trying to make a point, that I just remembered something that I was supposed to say, so the person can understand, and I need to interrupt myself to say something that I should have said before, and 3) that I need to constantly revise the sentences that I'm working on, to get it out right.

This is me.

My main problem is that I compulsively go back to correct errors in my typing so I always forget what I was trying to say!

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11 Mar 2008, 9:43 pm

Sarcastic_Name wrote:

It's like I'm reading the opposite of me. So, no, I don't have it.

Like this then?

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Stutterers:

Are very aware of their disorder
Perform worse when speaking under stress
Have a hard time fluently giving short answers
Often have inhibited, neat handwriting
Therapy focuses on relaxation techniques, calling attention away from speech
Are typically withdrawn, shy, or introverted
Typically were fluent, but then started stuttering
Know exactly what they want to say but cannot say it
Have organized speech
Have good listening skills

Not sure if you are or not but it's listed as almost the exact opposite of cluttering so...

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11 Mar 2008, 9:45 pm

Yee gads! Yes! Totally!

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11 Mar 2008, 9:48 pm

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Sarcastic_Name wrote:

It's like I'm reading the opposite of me. So, no, I don't have it.

Like this then?

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Stutterers:

Are very aware of their disorder
Perform worse when speaking under stress
Have a hard time fluently giving short answers
Often have inhibited, neat handwriting
Therapy focuses on relaxation techniques, calling attention away from speech
Are typically withdrawn, shy, or introverted
Typically were fluent, but then started stuttering
Know exactly what they want to say but cannot say it
Have organized speech
Have good listening skills

Not sure if you are or not but it's listed as almost the exact opposite of cluttering so...

That sounds almost exactly like me, except my handwriting is messy. Big things in bold.

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11 Mar 2008, 9:57 pm

The first excerpt sounds like me but the list has some contradictory things in it that don't apply to me. I call it chronic brain fart. If I'm really excited (doesn't matter the situation), I can jumble my words or my phrases. If I'm in a stressful situation, I can shut down and immediately afterwards have a flood of fluency (when it's too late to matter). I'm not extroverted, though with strangers I can open up and become a chatterbox briefly. I'm very aware of my speech issues, though I've never heard of this description, "clutterer".

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11 Mar 2008, 10:01 pm

Spoonerisms are a constant source of amusement...

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11 Mar 2008, 10:02 pm

KimJ wrote:

I found some stuff contradicting too. I am by no means an extroveted person. I don't always have problems but I see to slip up a lot. It was really bad when I was a kid.

Clutterer is a weird word, I had wanted to use it in the title just because it was funny.

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11 Mar 2008, 10:04 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt59642.html My thread on the opposite.

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11 Mar 2008, 10:51 pm

100% sure I have, did have theory for a while as a child before that no one much could understand me, have slowed down a little etc with age, but still jumble things up...

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12 Mar 2008, 10:31 pm

I responded, yes, but that is because I thought the OP was referring to physical clutter. ;-)

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12 Mar 2008, 10:55 pm

same here, if you'd said 'cluttered speech', I'd have changed my answer...

I have spells of it, but I'm learning to watch out for it. Now I take some time trying to find a laconic way of talking, so I give the minimum amount of information. Takes some getting used to. I save all the blather for this space...

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13 Mar 2008, 6:42 am

I don't clutter.

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13 Mar 2008, 6:56 am

I used to be a somewhat successful speech writer in high school, but my heavy self-editing made me sound more composed than real life.

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