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Tak
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01 Oct 2005, 3:56 pm

I tried to apoligise to the moderators for the flamewar with Eamonn, and this is what I got back.

This is what I recieved after a FRIENDLY APOLOGY to a moderator! If this is what he does to friendly, what whoud he have done if he had been flamed????

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From: ljbouchard
To: Tak
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:12 am
Subject: Re: Thanks! :) Quote message

BTW,

If you think that something is homophobic, please contact one of the mods. I however have a differing opinion on homophobic speech. As long as you are mearly stating an opinion, that is fine. If you acvocate harm to another person however, that is not fine.

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I never advocated HARM to anyone!

I got into a flamewar with a troll, and apoligised both publcly and privately to the mods, and this is what I got back. So much for "thank you"

This is just TOO much. Talk about agenda driven.

I tred to apoligise and I got this, if this is what runs Wrongplanet, I don't need it.


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01 Oct 2005, 4:03 pm

You are a troll. I hate it how some people on the internet like to keep arguments running due to a lack of any redeeming personality. Get a life and stop obsessing over me! Why wont the last word do for you and you have to keep the insults up to try and stop me leaving here peacefully? SAD!



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01 Oct 2005, 4:10 pm

Tak wrote:
I never advocated HARM to anyone!


I remember that flamewar between you and eamonn. I don't think you threatened or advocated harm, but there were personal insults and attacks on both sides. When someone is in a debate he or she should attack the issue, not the person.

ljbouchard's message doesn't seem bad, in my opinion. He was just warning you not to start having flamewars again.

Tak wrote:
I got into a flamewar with a troll, and apoligised both publcly and privately to the mods, and this is what I got back. So much for "thank you"

This is just TOO much. Talk about agenda driven.


Huh? :? What were you expecting the moderators to say?



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01 Oct 2005, 4:16 pm

Bec wrote:
Tak wrote:
I never advocated HARM to anyone!


I remember that flamewar between you and eamonn. I don't think you threatened or advocated harm, but there were personal insults and attacks on both sides.


Yes she did, she mentioned that she wanted me kicked in the stones with a pair of doc martins or something to that effect and then edited it. Im not sure if any mods caught this but i dont know if that is what it's about. Im almost certain she advocated harm to me before but i cant be looking through all the threads for it. No big deal anyway, there is probably at least two others here that would like me to come to harm judging by another thread i read today.



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01 Oct 2005, 4:33 pm

I advocate harm to all of you. Shut up.



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01 Oct 2005, 4:38 pm

Could a moderator please do something about this? I have a feeling that all of this Tak and eamonn stuff is never going to end.



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01 Oct 2005, 4:39 pm

Thanks for reminding us of how horrible our moderators are. Honestly, I don't know how this community has survived for as long as it has under such tyranny. And without your help, we would never have known the true extent of the mischievous plotting that goes on behind our backs.

Bye!



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01 Oct 2005, 4:44 pm

You guys are arguing as if there's something wrong with trolling!

Now, everyone,
Homophobia is cool if not arsome. On the other hand, discriminating against people with a same-sex orientation is immoral and evil. People who do that are going to burn in an illiberal hell!



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01 Oct 2005, 4:49 pm

please stay tak...

if there is a homophobic agenda on wp it is important that you continue to contribute to re-address the balance.

the way that i interpreted the message was that ljbouchard said "if you advocate harm..." it wouldn't be fine but i don't think he meant (or implied) that you actually did. however, i would like him to explain what he meant about having "a differing opinion on homophobic speech."

don't go, tak, because i enjoy reading your posts and i'm sure that other members do too.



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01 Oct 2005, 4:51 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Homophobia is cool if not arsome.


it is not, and will not be tolerated on WP.

however, i have a feeling that you didn't mean that literally, neanthumain. please could you clarify this?

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01 Oct 2005, 4:55 pm

vetivert wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
Homophobia is cool if not arsome.


it is not, and will not be tolerated on WP.

however, i have a feeling that you didn't mean that literally, neanthumain. please could you clarify this?

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His entire post was satire, or whatever the word is that I'm thinking of.


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01 Oct 2005, 5:23 pm

vetivert wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
Homophobia is cool if not arsome.


it is not, and will not be tolerated on WP.

however, i have a feeling that you didn't mean that literally, neanthumain. please could you clarify this?

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Right you are. I was kidding by establishing a contradiction between that and what I said right afterwards. Notice right before this I wondered why trolling might be thought of as bad.



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01 Oct 2005, 5:25 pm

okay - thanks for the clarification, neanthumain.

that'll be me having the AS literal thing, then.



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01 Oct 2005, 8:10 pm

ghotistix wrote:
Thanks for reminding us of how horrible our moderators are.


HAHAHHAH AAHHAHAH :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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01 Oct 2005, 8:45 pm

OK, I am going to respond.

First, Tak misread my message to her. I meant that we would investigate and take care of anything which would advocate harm to those who are gay. I did not state that she was going to harm anyone.

Second, I think that we have to realize that there should be a difference between an opinion that being gay is wrong (which people have the right to their opinion no matter what anyone else thinks) and homophobic speech. To silence one group of people because they do not agree with homosexuality is wrong in my opinion too.

With that said and all of the attacks on the mods lately, I do not know why one would want to be a mod. It seems that I spend more and more of my time cleaning up the messes others make and less of my time on this site for personal enjoyment. On top of that, no matter what the mods do, it seems we have armchair mods on this board who crtisize our every move. Add to that, the attacks, both public and private, from the persons whom we rightly warn (many times after discussion and debate). This is a hard job and if you think I should step down, you had better be ready to take may place and be able to do the job and even handed and fair as we do. Otherwise, shut up and let us do our jobs please.

Thank You


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01 Oct 2005, 8:50 pm

Very well stated.

I am sure being a mod is a very hard and thankless job.

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