Hate for auties on Oprah.com

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I don't watch the Oprah show anymore and neither does my mum. My mum said that she was getting ticked off at Oprah around the time that show aired, and that she was done with her, and I can see why.

Thanks MysteryFan3. It's great that you got a diagnosis last year, brave of you. I agree with your comments about her needing more information.

This thread is generating a lot of good feedback to that conversation between Estella and Shelby.

I think it would benefit Estella if one of you on the Oprah forum cut and paste this whole thread there for her so she can see the kind of responses her attitude garners.

I recently read Jenny McCarthy's book, "Louder than Words." It was full of her usual foul language and temper tantrums. She has melted down in public numerous times. The sexual talk in the book was inappropriate for an autism book.

Oh my god you guys rock, so many great posts here and I agree with everyone except the person who thinks autie is babyish. I like it and a lot of people use it here. Anyway, I believe in calling yourself whatever you feel comfortable with, which is why I was so opposed to Holly who really got quite aggressive with her opinion that we MUST be called "people with autism" and that autistic was nails on a chalkboard to her If you prefer autist, great, some like ASD better. I've heard "Aspergian", which I think is a bit lame but the guy who uses it likes it. I like Autistic, and autie is a great abbreviation when online!! !! I also like to put eeee on the end of everything and I don't care about babyishness since I'm 29 and still wear pigtails at times

Oh and D1nk0 there's no need for that kind of response to beau99 and clearly you're in the minority because a lot of us say autie. If you think it's immature then don't say it. Don't tell us what to say and quit hijacking the thread. Start a new one "autie vs autist."

Nory: If you get a chance to see the Oprah episode when it reairs, watch it but be prepared to be ticked off! The negative attitude of both of them was terrible. I love Jim Carrey also, and he has a WONDERFUL attitude to autism. He said he was fascinated by Evan (Jenny's son) and that he believed auties have been sent to the world for a reason. He's fantastic, and hopefully that attitude is rubbing off on his girlfriend. He'll make a great dad to that boy.

KingdomOfRats: Disabilism, I like that! Yes I wanted to report her to the mods of Oprah.com, because as I pointed out on that thread if she was saying that about black people, she'd be banned (especially on oprah.com of all sites!) But clearly the mods are reading because they already delete one of my posts to estrella, and don't see disabilism as a form of hate crime.

Liverbird: Yeah, I pretty much agree that Jenny is an idiot. I can't stand to see her on TV anymore. She's usually only doing bimbo things anyway!!

Vexcalibur: I absolutely agree with you about ignoring trolls, but this woman was not a troll. To ignore her in this instance would be to let her continue spreading her hateful words about autism and possibly influencing the others who may visit that board to get advice - mainly parents of autistic children looking for information. I believe we have succeeded, estrella is now changing her tune after getting an earful from us. You can't ignore discrimination, that's how it gets out of control.

But yes, ignoring trolls is great advice which is why I will ignore the poster above me who insists on swearing and abusing others for using an expression he does not like.

I made a post about innocent people being accused of trolls just because of their opinions, or ignorant thoughts, etc. I was referring to some people though like estrella77 but I wasn't going to point fingers at anyone in my post. I figure those who read the post would know who I'm talking about so I wanted to hear their opinion of why they do it.


I don't think D1nk0 is being a troll, I think he is just frustrated.

Race is such a touchy subject. I’m not sure what to say.

I find any time people complain about something a person or child cannot change, especially something genetic, very painful. That is what upset me in part about the article in O magazine. That the children were possibly presented as a bad deal, not what was paid for so to speak and its dehumanizing to the child and damaging to their future self esteem and identity or sense of belonging.

The comments about race, reminded me though of a similar case involving not autism but also genes/cryobank kind of thing. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/03 ... aby-1.html I felt just so sorry for the child whose existence was flawless other than that she was genetically not what was expected.

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I suppose for all the good Oprah does, there is going to be some bad. Differently abled people seem to be the last to be accepted, and are easily the subjects of discrimination. But we can and we are making a Difference with our Differences.

I like that term Autisten. Awesomely awe-tistic!