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26 Apr 2008, 7:28 pm

Tonight I was filling in a section of my pre-assessment questionairre about AS traits in family members and my father and I were were talking about our similarities.

One thing came up that has always confused me. Both of us find it hard to grasp new information. If something isn't written down in front of us, we probably won't take it in. Even on paper, it's just a bunch of words at first, it takes a few attempts at reading before it really goes in, and even then we're not that good at retaining information.

I won't play a new board game with anyone or attempt a game of cards which I don't know of because even if everyone else is new to it too, I will always be the last to pick it up.

Is this AS related or a learning disorder maybe? I'm not even sure if it's possible to have a learning disorder with asperger's. I can't have low functioning autism because my IQ is 119.

My AQ is 41.



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26 Apr 2008, 7:41 pm

floaty,

I think AS IS supposed to be a kind of "LEARNING DISORDER", but NOT REALLY. We just pick up DIFFERENT things in DIFFERENT ways. So some things are harder, and some easier.



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26 Apr 2008, 7:42 pm

I was told it is. I have the same problem as you. I have to see something written down for me to understand and sometimes visual helps depending on the information I am trying to learn. If someone just tells me, I most likely won't understand.



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26 Apr 2008, 7:42 pm

floaty wrote:
Tonight I was filling in a section of my pre-assessment questionairre about AS traits in family members and my father and I were were talking about our similarities.

One thing came up that has always confused me. Both of us find it hard to grasp new information. If something isn't written down in front of us, we probably won't take it in. Even on paper, it's just a bunch of words at first, it takes a few attempts at reading before it really goes in, and even then we're not that good at retaining information.

I won't play a new board game with anyone or attempt a game of cards which I don't know of because even if everyone else is new to it too, I will always be the last to pick it up.

Is this AS related or a learning disorder maybe? I'm not even sure if it's possible to have a learning disorder with asperger's. I can't have low functioning autism because my IQ is 119.

My AQ is 41.


I am going to be taking thing soon, btw. How is it??



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26 Apr 2008, 8:02 pm

floaty wrote:

One thing came up that has always confused me. Both of us find it hard to grasp new information. If something isn't written down in front of us, we probably won't take it in. Even on paper, it's just a bunch of words at first, it takes a few attempts at reading before it really goes in, and even then we're not that good at retaining information.



What you describe is a symptom of ADD and Cognitive Developmental Disorder not AS. Or if you have been in an accident it can be a sign of brain damage.



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26 Apr 2008, 8:17 pm

Ticker wrote:
What you describe is a symptom of ADD and Cognitive Developmental Disorder not AS. Or if you have been in an accident it can be a sign of brain damage.


Thanks for your reply.
Perhaps I should have listed my AS traits too.
I don't like socialising and prefer my own company, if I am around other people I'll feel awkward and anxious and not know what to talk about. I have obsessions and live by my routine. I hate if it's disrupted, can't keep eye contact and have bad handwriting. I see patterns in all sorts of things, hate talking on the phone, the people I'm close to I talk at instead of to.
I can't read between the lines and tend to take things literally, these things are just off the top of my head but there are more.
Does it still sound like I don't have AS?
I'm just puzzled now.



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26 Apr 2008, 8:19 pm

You can have AS and a learning disorder or ADD; they aren't mutually exclusive as far as I know.


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26 Apr 2008, 8:29 pm

it sounds like it could be executive dysfunction-which is part of autism and AS for many.
it's also part of adhd/add.


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26 Apr 2008, 8:35 pm

Whatever the cause it is a very aspie trait as far as I am concerned. My constant advice to my grandson is to trust what he has read rather than what he has remebered as said. When he gets information wrong it is usually what has been TOLD to him.

I am an ex learning support teacher and I am interested in reading comprehension. You say that at first what you read is just words, Floaty, and it takes several goes to take it in. I understand that many aspies think visually. I wonder if you need to read the information several times until you can visualise the information.


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26 Apr 2008, 8:35 pm

I can't even learn the rules about Chess. I try and learn the rules about it but there is so much to remember I can't hold it all in my head. I never enjoyed the game anyway so I never bothered to try and learn.

Some things are just hard for me to understand or retain some stuff. Like if I am learning something new, it can take a while for me to retain it. It's even harder for me to learn something I am not interested in.

I can't even listen for long periods of time. In school, the teacher would be talking and I would not remember a thing she said.
When something be interesting, it be real hard to listen because I couldn't keep up.
I used to have a short attention span as a kid, I still do but not at with not being able to focus on my work, I just get bored easily and get done with things quicker than other people. They'd rather spend lot of their time looking at something like at paintings in a art museum or at exhibits in museums. But me I look at it and I;m done. I also read fast and I am done. But others just rather stare at the exhibits. I never understood why they do it.


It sounds like you might have AS floaty. What you just said describes me, most of it. I have gotten better at not getting so upset if I am disrupted. I hate talking on the phone too but sometimes I don't if it's my parents I'm talking to. I used to talk with my ex a lot back when we first met. I talk to him every night at a certain time.

I have all three conditions BTW.



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26 Apr 2008, 8:49 pm

This is my daughter's web site - a work in progress. The relevant information is tha 75% of aspie children exhibit ADDH behaviours.



http://www.smelena.com/article_high_sch ... perger.php


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26 Apr 2008, 9:30 pm

floaty wrote:
Thankyou for all of your replies. I just thought I was slow to be honest, though it didn't make sense because my IQ isn't low.
The description of ADD/ADHD fits me I think, or maybe executive dysfunction, still with AS though I think.
It's a bit of a shock to be now considering other things as well. It's good though. Better than thinking I'm dumb for taking longer to learn new things.
I am having my assessment either mid May or early June, it will be a relief to know things for sure.
Thanks again.


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As for learning, there are some things I just seem to KNOW that some spend years trying to learn. Other things come real easy for me. So who is to say. If I find I am slower at something than someone else, OH WELL! NOBODY'S perfect.



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26 Apr 2008, 10:36 pm

Floaty,

It sounds to me like you might be dealing with a couple of things: one is that your auditory learning is not your strength - you are probably more of a visual learner, so when you hear information, you don't process it well; the other is that your working memory might be poor. That means that after you take in information, it doesn't "stick" with you very well, until you've had a chance to go over it enough for it to get into your long term memory.



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26 Apr 2008, 11:37 pm

I have heard AS have normal intillient but can have learning disabilities or other emotion problems as well. You are probably high functioning Autism.



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27 Apr 2008, 12:26 am

might i suggest

'information processing disorder'
as one symptomatic result of AS

rather than a 'learning disorder'
which happens to present similar traits

in the end, at lasd & thennagain, what
would be the difference -
to the teacher your AS might still be LD


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