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04 May 2008, 6:02 pm

Can echolalia be of a more subtle form than is generally accepted? I mean, is it rigidly parot talk or can it be a parroting of the sentiment expressed by the opposite person? I find that i am very prone under stress when speaking to someone i am not completely familiar with that i echo their sentiments though not the same words.

eg person a: "i like doing such and such" and ill say "yes i like doing that i did that blah blah" when i should just say "yes" and move to the next subject but instead i am prone to staying stuck in the groove like a record echoing time after time what they just said.

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04 May 2008, 6:16 pm

this sounds like a normal response to me. engaging and continuing the conversation.

my psycologist used the example of talking about the whether. someone might say it's cold today, and another person might respond in a agreement and bring up some detail as evidence that it is cold. obviously this little exchange isn't necessary for either person to know that it is cold, but the function of the exchange is not about the information thats actually being given.

unless are you talking more something like this?

"yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah"

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04 May 2008, 6:20 pm

Shayne wrote:

this sounds like a normal response to me. engaging and continuing the conversation.

unless are you talking more something like this?

"yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah yes i like doing that i did that blah blah"

LOL, yes like that, oh yes sure i can occasionally break free but i find i some situations that my mind freezes and i cannot think of things to say (believe me i can speak plenty) and i am just parroting all evening.

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04 May 2008, 6:53 pm

Shayne wrote:

my psycologist used the example of talking about the whether. someone might say it's cold today, and another person might respond in a agreement and bring up some detail as evidence that it is cold. obviously this little exchange isn't necessary for either person to know that it is cold, but the function of the exchange is not about the information thats actually being given.

Ah, yes this is exactly what i mean, elaboration and confirmation and affirming things which can very much be normal conversation perhaps unless most of the conversation is in this manner.

So, is your psychologist saying this is a form of echolalia? Its just that it isnt much of a conversation if i dont say original things, which often i am perfectly capable of doing. Perhaps it is a form of social phobia and stress.

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04 May 2008, 10:36 pm

Are you talking about the concept of mirroring?
That is more NT behavior, I think.

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04 May 2008, 10:45 pm

If you say yes, then continue on when you know you shouldn't, if it is in a stressful situation I would put it down to stress and social anxiety. babbling almost

i wouldn't quite call that echolalia... it's called mirroring as the previous poster said, and is actually an accepted form of response, done the correct way.

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04 May 2008, 11:22 pm

I sometimes involuntarily mimic the accent of someone I'm talking to. It can be pretty embarrassing, but I usually manage to laugh it off. I spent 3 weeks on a boat with a guy from Alabama once, by the end of the trip my drawl was thicker than his...

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04 May 2008, 11:38 pm

Hashberry wrote:

Shayne wrote:

this is something that i'm not likely to do that my psycologist is saying is expected in normal social situations (i might just smile and nod and stare at the person thinking, "why do they feel the need to tell me this.. can't they figure that i would have known it was cold already". people use these 'small talk' situations to connect in certain ways even though what is being said in the conversation isn't all that important. nothing to do with echolalia.

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04 May 2008, 11:44 pm

Dox47 wrote:

oh yea i do that... i worked at a flea market selling produce.. i would get all kinds of responses, such as where are you from? are you jamaican? are you from chile? etc.

there was some people from india that were teaching me the names of some produce in hindi. they had to ask me if i spoke hindi because my pronounciation was perfect.

my brother also worked with me for some time. he would get soo annoyed and tell me to stop talking like that! i'd just be like "i dont know what you're talking about" , i mean i knew i was speaking differently, but thats just how i was able to communicate.

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04 May 2008, 11:53 pm

riverotter wrote:

Are you talking about the concept of mirroring?
That is more NT behavior, I think.

seems that aspies that do have any of this ability might overdo it some with the actual aims of trying to be able communicate or trying to get along. but it becomes more of a conscious act than what you might find in NT behavior.

so maybe they have learned how to do this kind of behavior but it doesn't work the same way internally.

some might try to do it but in a way that doesn't seem normal or natural at all and really end up standing out where they are trying to fit in because of it.

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05 May 2008, 9:13 am

Hashberry wrote:

Shayne wrote:

oh hm are you saying on different topics all evening? my example is trying to show a response to a single topic and the one response is just repeated over and over again.

Hashberry wrote:

eg person a: "i like doing such and such" and ill say "yes i like doing that i did that blah blah" when i should just say "yes" and move to the next subject but instead i am prone to staying stuck in the groove like a record echoing time after time what they just said.

its perfectly normal in NT conversation to do this. think about how much time people waste talking about food or tv or cars, etc. someone can bring up food in a conversation, and the general response is to continue the conversation and not just respond like, "yea pizza is good.. i learned that when i was 4, over 20 years ago, next topic" instead they might go on about which of the popular pizza chains they like better or reasons that they don't like some or that someone should try pizza from some other place etc.

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05 May 2008, 9:30 am

Delayed echolalia is repetition of words or phrases repeatedly with no apparent social meaning to them.

Echolalia is repeating what someone said to you, i.e., 'My name is Daniel.' You'd then repeat that to me.

I do both often.

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05 May 2008, 10:16 am

i went through a period of repeating the name "Johnny Depp" and also the phrase "My dog eats strained peas"

i had no idea of who johnny depp was at the time.

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