Aspger's and ADD not each other's friend, especialy for work

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wob182
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07 May 2008, 4:49 pm

When I was told Aspgers have good qualitys in work, there reliable, punctual... I knew this is not me. I'm messy disorganised and day dream all the time, I cant think littarly some times it hurts my head.
I think ADD stops the good side of aspgers showing...its really annoying, so I'm finding it very difficulty to feel good about life at the moment because I need to find work as I've dropped out of college.

The only solution at the moment is the possibly of getting proscribed 'Ritalin' i think that's the name., in a few weeks.
but i doubt this will help me as i have anxiety history and Ritalin could bring out the anxiety. I'm just really lost.


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07 May 2008, 5:57 pm

Ya, i know what you mean. Cyber loafing is a big problem for me (i'm at work now!), but luckily i make up for it by being good at repetitive tasks. That and i work with a bunch of old people that don't know how to do anything.

I've taken adderall before to help study. It helps quite a bit sometimes.



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07 May 2008, 6:13 pm

I didn't read into it too literally.

I'm also quite disorganised at times, however I have found that I am stuck in routine (to an extent), in that I have no drive to exceed or journey outside of what I am already doing (the job i'm in, the hobbies I have etc). - that I do the same things all the time, though seemingly in a disorganised way.

I have also found that I notice change a lot, and instantly. I may be disorganised, and messy to a large extent, however if something is changed, even the smallest detail, I notice straight away.

Obviously there are people with AS who are very anal-retentive when it comes to routine, and are OCD in many ways in how they approach their daily tasks.



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07 May 2008, 6:25 pm

I can relate to this all too well...

I posted on it previously.


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08 May 2008, 8:10 am

LoveableNerd wrote:
I can relate to this all too well...

I posted on it previously.


yes procrastination is a b***h . But do you think its just lack of motivation? Meaning your lacking the drive to succeed. Hmm


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08 May 2008, 8:41 am

wob182 wrote:
When I was told Aspgers have good qualitys in work, there reliable, punctual... I knew this is not me. I'm messy disorganised and day dream all the time, I cant think littarly some times it hurts my head.
I think ADD stops the good side of aspgers showing...its really annoying, so I'm finding it very difficulty to feel good about life at the moment because I need to find work as I've dropped out of college.

The only solution at the moment is the possibly of getting proscribed 'Ritalin' i think that's the name., in a few weeks.
but i doubt this will help me as i have anxiety history and Ritalin could bring out the anxiety. I'm just really lost.


I'm highly disorganised and also day dream all the time. I also need the help of a social worker to be able to get a college degree.



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08 May 2008, 8:43 am

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I'm highly disorganised and also day dream all the time. I also need the help of a social worker to be able to get a college degree.


how does that work? What do they do that can help?


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08 May 2008, 8:53 am

wob182 wrote:
Reodor_Felgen wrote:

I'm highly disorganised and also day dream all the time. I also need the help of a social worker to be able to get a college degree.


how does that work? What do they do that can help?


My therapist wrote a letter to the norwegian social services. I have the letter, but haven't posted it yet. The social worker will help my organize my school work, and I might get a scholarship because of my difficulties. Unfortunately, a lot of people with Asperger's have problems with organizing their schoolwork.

(Before I was diagnosed with AS, I was tested twice for ADD)



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08 May 2008, 1:16 pm

This is one of the greatest problems of my life.



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08 May 2008, 1:31 pm

Completely agree.



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08 May 2008, 2:56 pm

I was never formally diagnosed with ADD as a kid, although one psychiatrist I saw when I was hypomanic and describing derealization, and my no more than one minute long attention span gave me a prescription for Concerta. He said that wasn't mania....apparently it's quite normal for a high functioning autistic 18 year old girl buy $7,000 handbags and get their nails done (the same girl who also works as an auto mechanic for the time being)....needless to say that one got it wrong, I was hospitalized a week later...I knew what was coming. I knew better than to take a stimulant.....I never filled it......I blame my own wonky neurotransmitters on that one.

I did take Ritalin as a kid for a brief time. It was supposed to help me from getting up in the middle of class and wondering around the school. It was supposed to stop me from impulsive blurting out whatever was on my mind and any given time. It was supposed to stop the impulsive urge to constantly move.......all it did was make my stimming way worse, and give me a tic...

I sometimes have a very short attention span. It can take me three hours to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. It can take two hours to photocopy one page of a lab notebook. I can leave my house, start driving and have no idea why I left the house, where I'm going, and if it's really bad I can't even recognize the traffic intersection I've been through probably 2000 times (this is when the derealization plays a role).....needless to day this can really impair my ability to work.

I procrastinate to no end...if it happens to be a task I find menial or pointless it simply doesn't get done, until my boss's head is about to explode and she yells at me and asks "what the heck is wrong with you kid?"

I'm hopelessly disorganized, although if you move one thing on that big pile of crap on my desk I will have your head. I resort to putting post it's all over the place to remind myself what has to be done....

I can waste an entire day, a week even, just looking up random things that spark my interest, that may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with my job, I get into this habit to kill time while I am procrastinating doing some pointless task.

I'm constantly late, because I have trouble getting myself ready for work in the morning due to my severe distractibility.

So you aren't alone.........



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08 May 2008, 4:42 pm

When i was little, i once told my mom i think i have ADD. She just laughed.



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08 May 2008, 4:51 pm

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I was never formally diagnosed with ADD as a kid, although one psychiatrist I saw when I was hypomanic and describing derealization, and my no more than one minute long attention span gave me a prescription for Concerta. He said that wasn't mania....apparently it's quite normal for a high functioning autistic 18 year old girl buy $7,000 handbags and get their nails done (the same girl who also works as an auto mechanic for the time being)....needless to say that one got it wrong, I was hospitalized a week later...I knew what was coming. I knew better than to take a stimulant.....I never filled it......I blame my own wonky neurotransmitters on that one.

I did take Ritalin as a kid for a brief time. It was supposed to help me from getting up in the middle of class and wondering around the school. It was supposed to stop me from impulsive blurting out whatever was on my mind and any given time. It was supposed to stop the impulsive urge to constantly move.......all it did was make my stimming way worse, and give me a tic...

I sometimes have a very short attention span. It can take me three hours to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. It can take two hours to photocopy one page of a lab notebook. I can leave my house, start driving and have no idea why I left the house, where I'm going, and if it's really bad I can't even recognize the traffic intersection I've been through probably 2000 times (this is when the derealization plays a role).....needless to day this can really impair my ability to work.

I procrastinate to no end...if it happens to be a task I find menial or pointless it simply doesn't get done, until my boss's head is about to explode and she yells at me and asks "what the heck is wrong with you kid?"

I'm hopelessly disorganized, although if you move one thing on that big pile of crap on my desk I will have your head. I resort to putting post it's all over the place to remind myself what has to be done....

I can waste an entire day, a week even, just looking up random things that spark my interest, that may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with my job, I get into this habit to kill time while I am procrastinating doing some pointless task.

I'm constantly late, because I have trouble getting myself ready for work in the morning due to my severe distractibility.

So you aren't alone.........


its nice to hear i'm not alone but how do you organise mess? For example my room is covered in clothes all different types random books, shoes i can find stuff but it frustrating that i cant appear normal, my parents are so hurtful about it always putting me down because I'm messy.

Another thing is I cant organise my thoughts, i cant i can barely organise what i should be doing. I'm better with appointments when its a fixed time of the day and cannot be procrastinated until its never done.


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08 May 2008, 4:54 pm

Oh hell yeah, I'm a terrible worker meself... I'm good at what I do, but even for that I'll throw the odd meltdown as soon as I have to do something that makes me feel uncomfortable for the working environment.


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08 May 2008, 5:05 pm

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its nice to hear i'm not alone but how do you organise mess? For example my room is covered in clothes all different types random books, shoes i can find stuff but it frustrating that i cant appear normal, my parents are so hurtful about it always putting me down because I'm messy.

Another thing is I cant organise my thoughts, i cant i can barely organise what i should be doing. I'm better with appointments when its a fixed time of the day and cannot be procrastinated until its never done.


I try to not have too many items of clothing...actually I'm a pile maker. I make big mountains of dirty clothes.....even mountains of clean clothes. I have a king sized bed and I sleep alone, often adjacent to a mountain of clean laundry. I make piles on backs of chairs...I make piles of books, piles of magazines, piles of bills. I know where everything is. If I get to the point where the piles are falling over, and I have to climb over stuff, clothes not in drawers or closets just in piles it's time to clean my room (this happens most often during hypomania, and never during depressions or actual mania). I usually will spend a day throwing stuff away, getting rid of old clothes, sorting mail. I don't live with my parents anymore, and I don't remember it being an issue when I was younger, because my dad was the same way.....

Hmmm....about organizing your thoughts.....do you have time to write one down before another pops up? Can you isolate one thought at a time, or do you have multiple trains of thought going at once?

When my brain is going slow enough (never during mania, not of this applies to mania), just my normal pinball machine of a brain.....I can manage to write things down....I will cover my desk, my fridge, my counter tops and my lab bench with post-its....I remove them after I've done the task that the post it was reminding me to do. It drives my roommate and coworkers nuts, but it's better that I do that then not attend to anything, because then nothing whatsoever would get done.

This can be difficult because it's not uncommon for me to have several trains of thought going at once....like constant chatter.....pictures flashing all over...I have to force it to make sense....pay attention to one train and ignore the other three, four or five.....eventually they just sound like a TV with no volume or a radio that was left on in another room.......

I will say the post-it's really do help. Especially at work. It's the only way I can keep track of what I'm supposed to be doing...I can't leave it up to my brain to do that....it's just going too fast.....



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08 May 2008, 5:05 pm

wob182 wrote:
When I was told Aspgers have good qualitys in work, there reliable, punctual... I knew this is not me. I'm messy disorganised and day dream all the time, I cant think littarly some times it hurts my head.
I think ADD stops the good side of aspgers showing...its really annoying, so I'm finding it very difficulty to feel good about life at the moment because I need to find work as I've dropped out of college.

The only solution at the moment is the possibly of getting proscribed 'Ritalin' i think that's the name., in a few weeks.
but i doubt this will help me as i have anxiety history and Ritalin could bring out the anxiety. I'm just really lost.


I used to be VERY fastidious, punctual, diligent, etc.... I became less so after about 8 or so, because of my mother, less later because of my employers, etc...

I'm messy, could be more organized, and probably do day dream too much.