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31 May 2015, 6:50 am

*http://www.daysyn.com/Types-of-Syn.html
Recently I have been reading about Synesthesia and I'm wondering if anyone else has the pain-color/vision, vision-pain/touch experience?
With regard to the mirror-touch experience, does anyone know how is it different to the vision-touch type?
Im also curious about the many different sub-types of the twenty forms of Synesthesia, 63 apparently, do you have one of them or more?

For me, intense discomfort has a pain-color/vision effect, I see white in my minds eye, no shapes just a blanket of white color, it lasts a short while and then fades. When I was younger and experienced headaches I would see something similar to graph spikes in burnt orange as a representation of the pain, Ive had this experience once as an adult.
I don't know if I have positive perceptions too, or if its just pain related.

Short interview with Michael Banissy explaining synesthesia https://vimeo.com/34335507



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31 May 2015, 7:56 am

I probably have all kind of lexeme synesthesia (I understand it as feeling sensations of the meaning of a word - which I do. When I hear "lemon" I see a lemon, I feel smell of a lemon and the taste of a lemon. And when I hear "stone" I see a stone and feel the texture of a stone).
I also have object personification - I talk to computers, mobile phones, TVs and many other devices and sympathize with them. For example when mobile phone needs to be changed I say - "Oh, you are hungry".
I have sound to kinetics and touch synesthesia but isn't it quite normal? Bassus sound for example is strong enough to make you feel like something was jumping in your stomach, right? It's pure physics. Sound is a wave that interferes with physical stuffs.
I seem to have touch to taste synesthesia but its more food texture thing than taste thing. When something dry is on my skin I feel as if my teeth were covered with sand.
As a kid I used to have touch to smell synesthesia - I could touch something and tell it's smell without smelling it or seeing what it is. But it doesn't work anymore. I suppose it had something to do with short hands and smell transporting through body heat.
I have vision to almost everything synesthesia just like with the lexeme thing.



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31 May 2015, 8:03 am

Whenever I see someone getting close to me I feel like I'm pushed and I stand back and stop looking. Would that be some sort of vision to touch synesthesia?



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31 May 2015, 9:36 am

I wish I had Synesthesia!



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31 May 2015, 5:45 pm

Kiriae- wow you have loads of the sub types, the full experience of a lemon just from the word, amazing. DailyPoutine1 the sub types of this condition are very new to me, I don't know the answer to your question.
Kraftie, I think the most excellent part is that its an additional sensory experience, and not a replacement.

Some ramblings: I've done more reading about this today, including the other active on-topic thread. I'm quite certain that I have the pain-vision type. What I am less clear about is the vision-pain experience, I read about mirror touch synesthesia and for people with this type, watching another person being touched creates the same tactile sensation on their own body. Vision-touch and Mirror touch seem to be interchangeable terms.

wikipedia wrote:
Three conditions must be met in order to confirm the presence of mirror touch synesthesia. The first condition is that the synaesthetic response, which is defined as the sensation synesthetes feel after observing someone else being touched, should feel like conscious experiences. The second condition is that synesthetic responses are induced by a stimulus that normally does not induce that response. The third condition is that the synesthetic experiences must occur automatically, without conscious thought.

I don't meet those conditions, but at times if I see someone upset/hurt etc I feel that other persons emotional pain. I think that is related to empathy especially if I have had a similar experience, and not a synesthetic visual-pain experience, I think in images, but of course the minds eye is different to vision.

Something else I thought was interesting is the mirror-touch relationship with affective empathy, and that commonality with the mechanisms of sensory simulation. (‘tactile mirror system’ )Link Also this type can be developed, eg in the case of amputees, which makes me question why it is classified as an innate neurological condition that continues into adulthood due to lack of pruning.
natureneuroscience Banissy Ward



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31 May 2015, 6:07 pm

Mine are Graphemes -> Vision and Vision -> Sounds.

There is an online self-reported test for synesthesia ( http://www.synesthesiatest.org/ ). Its syn types are fewer.


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01 Jun 2015, 7:59 am

Thanks AspieUtah.

Here is another self-report test for Synesthesia, Link after the test to find out if you might have Synesthesia, a quick registration is required which is followed by a battery of tests. It measured Vividness of Visual Imagery, my VVIQ-2 Score was 4.6875, it also identifies if you are a Projector or Associator, based on receiving a positive score for Projector and a negative score for Associator, my result was zero. So I'm both or neither... :? . (Based off my interpretation of the information, I think an Associator is more accurate than a Projector.) It doesn't provide much feedback, but the question format and focus was interesting.



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01 Jun 2015, 10:40 am

I like that that study exists, but it assumes that synesthesia is color associated and for me, it mostly isn't. I sense personalities and shapes in numbers and objects and I have this weird thing when I try to do math where I try to do it in three dimensions.



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01 Jun 2015, 12:23 pm

Hi SocOfAutism
There is a lot of in depth information relating to Grapheme-Color Synesthesia, but I have not found a lot out about pain-color.
Is that the OLP/Ordinal-linguistic personification type?

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An individual who experiences this will associate ordered sequences with various personalities. Ordered sequences may include numbers, letters, months and so on.
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01 Jun 2015, 3:32 pm

SocOfAutism wrote:
I like that that study exists, but it assumes that synesthesia is color associated and for me, it mostly isn't. I sense personalities and shapes in numbers and objects and I have this weird thing when I try to do math where I try to do it in three dimensions.

That seems more like ideasthesia than synesthesia. Synesthesia involves the senses.



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01 Jun 2015, 4:43 pm

starkid wrote:
SocOfAutism wrote:
I like that that study exists, but it assumes that synesthesia is color associated and for me, it mostly isn't. I sense personalities and shapes in numbers and objects and I have this weird thing when I try to do math where I try to do it in three dimensions.

That seems more like ideasthesia than synesthesia. Synesthesia involves the senses.


I'm unfamiliar with ideasthesia, but my basic understanding of the difference is:
Concept - color is ideasthesia (idea input - sense).
Sound - color is synesthesia (sense input - sense).