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equinn
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17 May 2008, 1:40 pm

Do aspies typically have a high score on working memory?



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17 May 2008, 2:49 pm

Apparently not.

Nakahachi et al. (2006) wrote:
Discrepancy of performance among working memory-related tasks in autism spectrum disorders was caused by task characteristics, apart from working memory, which could interfere with task execution
Working memory performance has been inconsistently reported in autism spectrum disorders (ASD). Several studies in ASD have found normal performance in digit span and poor performance in digit symbol task although these are closely related with working memory. It is assumed that poor performance in digit symbol could be explained by confirmatory behavior, which is induced due to the vague memory representation of number-symbol association. Therefore it was hypothesized that the performance of working memory task, in which vagueness did not cause confirmatory behavior, would be normal in ASD. For this purpose, the Advanced Trail Making Test (ATMT) was used. The performance of digit span, digit symbol and ATMT was compared between ASD and normal control. The digit span, digit symbol and ATMT was given to 16 ASD subjects and 28 IQ-, age- and sex-matched control subjects. The scores of these tasks were compared. A significantly lower score for ASD was found only in digit symbol compared with control subjects. There were no significant difference in digit span and working memory estimated by ATMT. Discrepancy of scores among working memory-related tasks was demonstrated in ASD. Poor digit symbol performance, normal digit span and normal working memory in ATMT implied that ASD subjects would be intact in working memory itself, and that superficial working memory dysfunction might be observed due to confirmatory behavior in digit symbol. Therefore, to evaluate working memory in ASD, tasks that could stimulate psychopathology specific to ASD should be avoided.



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17 May 2008, 2:54 pm

I can't speak for everyone, but I absolutely tanked that part of the test. It was my lowest score.



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17 May 2008, 3:01 pm

Recently (about 5 years ago) I was tested, I was found to have a 30% working memory deficit.


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17 May 2008, 3:05 pm

delia43 wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, but I absolutely tanked that part of the test. It was my lowest score.


The last IQ (or whatever) test I took, working memory was my lowest score as well.

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17 May 2008, 3:50 pm

I actually checked right now to get the absolute exact score and it says I scored 141 in working memory of the WISC.


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17 May 2008, 4:53 pm

What is 'working memory'?



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17 May 2008, 4:58 pm

Postperson wrote:
What is 'working memory'?


Short-term memory. It's what you use to get through complex tasks, etc. It's different from long-term memory, which is memories of your childhood, etc, or procedural memory, which involves things like how to ride a bike.

The label "working memory" is also an IQ-test subset, at least on the WAIS (which I took).



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17 May 2008, 4:59 pm

Postperson wrote:
What is 'working memory'?


You can either look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_memory. But this is way way easier to understand and only a couple of sentences long: http://www.concordspedpac.org/WISC_IV.html.


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17 May 2008, 5:14 pm

My working memory is unpredictable. I have a good digit retention span - I can consistently remember sequences of up to 11 digits, but when it comes to instructions, I'm terrible. :P I can be given a list of instructions, and I'll forget one or two of them within seconds, or I'll get the order mixed up.

Are there any online sites to test your working memory?


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17 May 2008, 6:45 pm

I have a memory? I forgot.



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17 May 2008, 8:49 pm

My working memory is woeful and I was in the bottom 9 percentile compared to my perceptive reasoning was up in the top 7 or 8 percentile.

I have to look at numbers at least three times in the phone book before I can reliably copy them down. It is OK if someone reads a phone number out very quickly I read it back like something is echoing in my head. But if someone reads out a random set of digits with a one second delay between each digit, the best that I can reliably do is just 4 and just 3 in reverse.



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17 May 2008, 9:01 pm

Hodor wrote:
My working memory is unpredictable. I have a good digit retention span - I can consistently remember sequences of up to 11 digits, but when it comes to instructions, I'm terrible. :P I can be given a list of instructions, and I'll forget one or two of them within seconds, or I'll get the order mixed up.

Are there any online sites to test your working memory?


Like this animated memory game. I must performed a lot better than I usually do and scored 47%
http://www.zefrank.com/memory/



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17 May 2008, 9:15 pm

Maybe this explain my troubles at work in my last shift. My office clerk was always telling me "What did I tell you?" "You should know this" "How long have you been working here?" and I answer and then he says "Then you should know where (insert item here) is."
Well if they move things around I can't find it, if something is not in my long term memory I will forget. The whole time I thought I was having a bad memory and it felt like I was on drugs or something because I felt stupid for not knowing something or remembering something. Now this explains it all. But I am doing so much better in the daytime. I wonder why? No changes, no interuptions. Maybe that's why. I do a routine, in my last one I had to change things around in my routine, had to be flexible.



I scored 38% on the memory.



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17 May 2008, 11:31 pm

My short-term memory is terrible. I'll forget what I'm doing while I'm doing it. I'll have the TV remote in my hand and forget where I put it :x

I'm not even exaggerating =/



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17 May 2008, 11:35 pm

paulsinnerchild wrote:
http://www.zefrank.com/memory/


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