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20 May 2008, 6:44 pm

From late elementary school to this day, whenever I am frustrated with something in particular, or just plain-out stressed, I feel like there are invisible imaginary people or voices teasing me over and over again, and it makes me ready to have a meltdown, although I try to endure it instead so I don't break anything. Can anyone on this board relate to this scenario?



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20 May 2008, 6:45 pm

YES!
It's almost like you can hear them isn't it?



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20 May 2008, 7:17 pm

It's your inner critic, benzos seem to silence him/her pretty well :D


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20 May 2008, 8:49 pm

Yes, and my Jungian analyst told me to say, "I don't have to listen to you" - it worked!



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20 May 2008, 8:51 pm

That sounds a little like paranoid schizophrenia. Do you have any other symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia?



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20 May 2008, 8:56 pm

hmm, OH YA! dude, like u feel u can just feel that sense of hate around u? like accept its an actual person. u know that he or she is saying bad things bout u and it tears u up inside?



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20 May 2008, 8:58 pm

Stereokid wrote:
From late elementary school to this day, whenever I am frustrated with something in particular, or just plain-out stressed, I feel like there are invisible imaginary people or voices teasing me over and over again, and it makes me ready to have a meltdown, although I try to endure it instead so I don't break anything. Can anyone on this board relate to this scenario?


I don't directly, but instead I am very hard on myself - conscientious to the extreme. Bullying is real and one never forgets. I do remember being hurt by others, but not necessarily the one who hurt me. I 'replay' the hurt a lot. I think that's equivalent to your description but not quite the same manifestation. I've had meltdowns over feeling so hard on myself......sigh. Mostly all I know, from others, is mean-ness. Have others mistreated you as well? Auties/Aspies are invariably bullied.


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20 May 2008, 11:15 pm

I hear myself saying terrible things about me.

Then again, I have clinical depression.



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20 May 2008, 11:30 pm

We all have what some call an "inner voice"... I have a feeling that's what it is.. OR it could be a memory from an abusive situation where you were being verbally attacked...

It is possible that because you have received so much criticism in life from parents and other people because of your neurological differences (being on the autistic spectrum), that you have internalized this criticism.. so that you are especially hard on yourself when you make a mistake.. You might generally dislike yourself because of all the lifetime of criticism from people who don't understand.. I have a feeling alot of people here have that issue...

Actually, quite a few neurotypical people have a similar problem too because they were raised by overly harsh parents or abusive alcoholics, etc... Some people refer to it as "the committee in my head"... an expression representing a collection of criticisms from all the negative people you've encountered in your life... When you get frustrated with life or with yourself, or depressed, these negative thoughts and overly harsh self-criticisms tend to come to the surface more. THey come from your own inner voice because you believed the criticisms you have heard so much and these beliefs have become internalized into your psyche... I have a feeling that's what it is in your case... Although, it could be some type of memory of verbal criticisms that comes to the surface similar to Post traumatic stress disorder.... Either way, hopefully if this happens again, you can be easier on yourself and please understand that you don't deserve this type of cruelty. Therapy could be really beneficial for you.

Someone mentioned that they thought it could be schizophrenia... like you might be having hallucinations.. If it is the same type of thing every time though, then I doubt it's hallucination.. Do you ever hear other types of sounds or possibly instructions from people that aren't there, etc? or is it always criticism seeming to come from numerous people at once when you're under alot of stress or angry with yourself? If it's really vivid and always a similar thing, it might be like a traumatic memory.. PTSD.. like a flashback from your memory that you blocked but it resurfaces when your stressed... ?

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21 May 2008, 3:32 am

i know what you mean
it's like you know in your head
that they are talking about you
in some demeaning manner.

i can't stand those situations,
often times i try to defend myself
when it's a group setting because
i think they may be thinking of me
already in a certain way, and only
ending up making a fool of myself.

that is why i don't like human interaction
that much...too much drama



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21 May 2008, 3:39 am

NeantHumain wrote:
That sounds a little like paranoid schizophrenia. Do you have any other symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia?
They're not auditory hallucinations--hallucinations have to be experienced as originating outside of one's own mind.

Of course, if you do experience them that way, it's probably a good idea to get it checked out; but if you still have the insight to know they aren't real, I wouldn't worry--most people have had mild, transient psychotic symptoms like that occasionally, especially during really stressful times. Re-experiencing trauma is also a part of PTSD, so if you had some really severe, emotionally charged experiences with teasing, they could simply be flashbacks...

Anyway, I don't think it's really pathological. It's just somebody's brain acting up on them--happens to everybody, in different ways.


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21 May 2008, 3:43 am

Felinity wrote:
We all have what some call an "inner voice"... I have a feeling that's what it is.. OR it could be a memory from an abusive situation where you were being verbally attacked...

It is possible that because you have received so much criticism in life from parents and other people because of your neurological differences (being on the autistic spectrum), that you have internalized this criticism.. so that you are especially hard on yourself when you make a mistake.. You might generally dislike yourself because of all the lifetime of criticism from people who don't understand.. I have a feeling alot of people here have that issue...

Actually, quite a few neurotypical people have a similar problem too because they were raised by overly harsh parents or abusive alcoholics, etc... Some people refer to it as "the committee in my head"... an expression representing a collection of criticisms from all the negative people you've encountered in your life... When you get frustrated with life or with yourself, or depressed, these negative thoughts and overly harsh self-criticisms tend to come to the surface more. THey come from your own inner voice because you believed the criticisms you have heard so much and these beliefs have become internalized into your psyche... I have a feeling that's what it is in your case... Although, it could be some type of memory of verbal criticisms that comes to the surface similar to Post traumatic stress disorder.... Either way, hopefully if this happens again, you can be easier on yourself and please understand that you don't deserve this type of cruelty. Therapy could be really beneficial for you.

Someone mentioned that they thought it could be schizophrenia... like you might be having hallucinations.. If it is the same type of thing every time though, then I doubt it's hallucination.. Do you ever hear other types of sounds or possibly instructions from people that aren't there, etc? or is it always criticism seeming to come from numerous people at once when you're under alot of stress or angry with yourself? If it's really vivid and always a similar thing, it might be like a traumatic memory.. PTSD.. like a flashback from your memory that you blocked but it resurfaces when your stressed... ?

L


I attended a seminar with Tony Attwood a year ago and he described the inner voices as Felinity has. He also discussed PTSD - he uses SHOCK rather than STRESS.

Felinity has given you good advice.

I hope this information will help you.

Robyn


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21 May 2008, 3:49 am

It is just your instincts talking to you.

Your instincts (social and individual) will always be at odds with each other, and you are likely to end up their tool if you give them half a chance.

As it happens though... my "social instinct" is lazy and indifferent, though quite insightful sometimes when she wants to be. She doesn't care much for her role, which helps me immensely. The thing is... I know it is a ploy, as she is manipulating me in VERY subtle ways... but I resist where I can, and she won't take it personally.
My "individual instinct" is a vicious, sadomasochistic psychopath.... well beyond my own mere relatively mild sociopathy. He seems to care about nothing more than inflicting unpleasantries on everyone, myself included. He berrates me, rather as you get berrated yourself..... but it is usually regarding why I don't have more battle-scars.... or why so-and-so a person who wronged me still has all their limbs intact. I try to ignore him generally, as his suggestions are usually outrageous and counter-productive to my own ends (e.g. killing and maiming sprees, arson, etc).



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21 May 2008, 6:16 am

Soticoto!! :D have you considered a career in comedy!

I have an inner editor that wnats me to act in certain correct ways. Now that I am older I can recognise it and cast off its chains.


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21 May 2008, 7:38 am

nannarob wrote:
Soticoto!! :D have you considered a career in comedy!

I have an inner editor that wnats me to act in certain correct ways. Now that I am older I can recognise it and cast off its chains.


I have recently started to stop that record of past shocks playing in my head. It can be difficult but you don't necessarily have to forgive n forget, just let it go as soon as you realise your mind is doing it. I chew on the recurring thoughts a bit at a time to teach my mind to see the situations objectively, breaking it down into manageble chunks, till parts come back, visualizing letting it go again and so on. The only way to work with it is going against the thought, can't change the actual traumatic experience.


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21 May 2008, 7:41 am

nannarob wrote:
Soticoto!! :D have you considered a career in comedy!

I have an inner editor that wnats me to act in certain correct ways. Now that I am older I can recognise it and cast off its chains.

Comedy?
Nah. Not really.
But then as far as I'm aware I wasn't trying to be funny. I suppose that is how it works though. Funny just happens, and generally only when it isn't being tried for. Makes me wonder how stand-up comedians cope at all.

Incidentally, I wasn't sure if you were mocking me or not, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt here.