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28 May 2008, 2:00 am

I feel the biggest step an Aspie can take is self acceptance. We are not going to fit into a NT world; it's like trying to put the proverbial square peg into a round hole. It I judge how I live my life according to NT standards, I am going to fall short every time.
As an Aspie I also spend alot of time alone. I have become an avid reader; I also have an exercise regimen that I follow daily. An NT will never understand how an Aspie can spend time alone without being lonely and it is useless to try and rationalize this to them. One of the best things that can come from NTs offering "treatment" is that you can learn about other Aspies and can interact with them. You learn that you are not alone and there are many of us around. Again, I'll reiterate; don't look for acceptance from NTs. We are who we are; revel in your uniqueness.



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28 May 2008, 2:16 am

yeah i agree what makes the human species so great is our diferences and we are the most diferent.



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28 May 2008, 3:25 am

*Yawns*


Tell me something I don't know.

Trying to explain anything to mundies without overly simplistic diagrams and a representation of another person pointing it out to them will tend to result in them completely failing to understand. They're so damned stupid it makes me sick sometimes.



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28 May 2008, 7:01 am

For some that's good.

For others: not at all.

I don't want to isolate myself and only interact with others aspies. I want to mingle and interact with everyone interesting. Neurology has nothing to do with who's interesting to me.

Self-acceptance, I think, should just be there.

What you want to do and what you strive for should just be okay with and you should like yourself. You can like yourself and say AS is annoying - you can like yourself and try to be social even if you have issues. Of course, you can also like yourself by keeping it relaxing and avoid the social ruckus. And like yourself by keeping a balance between these two positions. Everyone must find his or her own way.

But liking yourself whatever happens - that's important to my mind. Not making everything good happen and try avoiding everything bad. That way a person is just running away from themselves.

Real self-acceptance is to feel content with yourself, even if you intellectually curse yourself, no matter your position.


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28 May 2008, 7:09 am

I have loads of self acceptance, just wish a few more NTs would be accepting!


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28 May 2008, 8:58 am

SotiCoto wrote:
*Yawns*


Tell me something I don't know.

Trying to explain anything to mundies without overly simplistic diagrams and a representation of another person pointing it out to them will tend to result in them completely failing to understand. They're so damned stupid it makes me sick sometimes.


Hmm, well, Soti, i've been reading lots of your posts and it has set me wondering. According to your standards for genius and stupid, i am a stupid Aspie, and i'm certainly not alone. Based on your responses to other Aspies here, you seem to think the same. How does that affect your belief in overall Aspie superiority?

Ponder this. In the realm of all things we do not know, is it possible that we are all stupid? It is pretty easy to drag others into the small realm of what we do know and attempt to make them feel stupid ( your admission from another post here ). How does that make one superior?



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28 May 2008, 9:08 am

Now to answer the OP, yes, AS is just part of who we are and comes with very useful strengths. And yes, the prevailing culture makes it difficult for us to fit in. I cannot believe, though, that an 'us vs. them' mentality about NTs is what will ever help. There are plenty of NTs out there who are perfectly willing to bridge the gap to us and get us all happily integrated. Many more, if given the truth about us would also join that group. Listening to the few 'squeaky wheels' out there who are displaying their fear or ignorance will get us nowhere. Mobilizing into a combat mentality will only seem to justify their fears and ignorant ideas of us. We would only be hurting ourselves. Demanding that they make an effort to meet us where we are, then not doing the same would make us hypocrites.



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28 May 2008, 12:13 pm

Quote:
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Tell me something I don't know.

Trying to explain anything to mundies without overly simplistic diagrams and a representation of another person pointing it out to them will tend to result in them completely failing to understand. They're so damned stupid it makes me sick sometimes.


Dude, I know some mundies that are at LEAST bright enough to know they won't have any friends if they act like an ass to everyone. Which is more than I can say for you. And your jerky reply is..?



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28 May 2008, 12:29 pm

Aspinator wrote:
I feel the biggest step an Aspie can take is self acceptance. We are not going to fit into a NT world; it's like trying to put the proverbial square peg into a round hole.


It's not an NT world (well, in a sense yes but in others no). It's a diverse world. I think AS people should think about what THEY can bring to the world, how they can contribute.

I think there are many, many ways to bring a whole new perspective to the world: educate others, perform certain jobs which require analytical thinking and a love for details -engineering, phisics, math, act as a balance or as a check for the emotional people in a family or team, keep cool in certain situations where emotional people can't do that, write poetry/fiction, use the analytical/cool/reserved demeanor to pacify people who disagree or to construct a very logic argument...

I say there are MANY ways in which ASs are NEEDED in the world! And I hope AS people realize that their unique qualities are just as much needed as NTs' qualities!



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28 May 2008, 11:38 pm

northern_light_girl wrote:
It's not an NT world (well, in a sense yes but in others no). It's a diverse world. I think AS people should think about what THEY can bring to the world, how they can contribute. .......


I say there are MANY ways in which ASs are NEEDED in the world! And I hope AS people realize that their unique qualities are just as much needed as NTs' qualities!


Also to everything from the middle of the above, here here. My family has a saying, "Geeks rule the world." If we look at who is leading and keeping things moving, we'll see a whole bunch of Aspies/Geeks. They may not be diagnosed or tell, but they are there.