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BrixBrix
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18 Jul 2008, 4:52 pm

I presented this issue on some other forums, and have been told twice that my mistake (or rather, my mom's) was mentioning AS as a possible diagnosis.

I was told that I should've made a list of all of my AS symptoms, presented it to the psychologist, tried not to hide any of my AS traits during the sessions, and let the psychologist be the first one to bring up the words "Asperger Syndrome", even if it took a few weeks or months.

One of the posters said that since most general psychologists don't just go looking for AS and have little experience with it, since it was brought up so early in my first session, my doctor probably didn't get a chance to see some of the biggest AS signs, and thus ruled the diagnosis out because of that.

I think they are right.

What do you all think?



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18 Jul 2008, 5:24 pm

It depends on whether a general, non-experienced would decide none of the disorders they have on their mind fit you and would then look them up.

The issue is, not all do that.

A list of AS symptoms can also be easily explained by a leap of other and more common diagnoses. A professional can find it satisfying to have a patient with 5 or more syndromes and disorders if they believe it explains the symptoms.

For some it's also a reality to have, say, social anxiety disorder, depressions, OCD, borderline pd, avoidance pd, PTSD and/or traumatic experiences (is given as an extra diagnosis next to Borderline pd sometimes), ADHD, an eating disorder and... actually, that's the ones that are fairly common and that I can remember at this moment.

The sensible route to take as a general psychologist is to go for common, most likely diagnoses.

Even the general doctor won't look up obscure diagnoses when he's unsure and has to find a reason why a patient is physically sick. The chance to find someone with a rare disease is just too small and not worth the risk to meddle in the unknown.

Anyway, it sometimes turns out to be bad to mention any diagnoses to some professionals. They'll react defensive, even if the diagnosis something common. Patients who 'self-diagnose' are the pet peeve of many professionals, physical as well as psychological.

And some, though open-minded and not bothered by self-diagnoses, react the way you described.

A reconstruction of that professionals reason to deny the possibility of you having AS is guesswork. Maybe that, maybe of one of the reasons I mentioned above, maybe she didn't think it was likely because of another reason.

Better take the 1-hour trip to the specialist if you plan on seeing another shrink in the future because of possible Asperger's.


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18 Jul 2008, 5:45 pm

BrixBrix wrote:
Hi. I'm new to this forum community.

Anyway, I am a 16-yr-old female. About 2 years ago, I was first told I probably had AS by a girl who had 2 Aspie family members. I didn't give it much thought, then I saw a documentary British Aspie Savant Daniel Tammet on the Discovery Channel and could not believe how much he was like me. I went on youtube and watched vids on ppl with AS & I could relate to all of them. So, I decided that the girl who told me I probably had it was most likely correct and went to seek a diagnosis.

My mom and I walked into my psychologists office and after about about 10 mins, my mom asked my psychologist if I had AS. My psychologist laughs and says "No way! She's too smart and too articulate," (keep in mind this is after only 10 mins of meeting me) then went on to say that aspies don't care how they feel or if they have friends. My psych totally ruled AS out and then diagnosed me with a crapload of anxiety and sensory disorders and depression.

This was about a year ago, and I'm starting to wonder if I should seek another psychologist. I think my doc was too quick to rule out AS and that she should have at least given me a proper diagnostic test for it. She acted as if Aspies are ret*d people who cannot speak. And anyone who knows about AS will tell you that Aspies are highly articulate, highly intelligent people.

Plus, I still believe I have AS. I have to wear earplugs to school, I have no friends, I've never had a romantic relationship, I have extreme sensory integration problems, a monotone voice, and am not empathetic. I'm clumsy, cannot drive, can't maintain eye contact, and hate being around people. I also have absolute pitch. The only thing un-Aspie about me is that I can be very imaginative and creative.

If I do go to another psychologist, should I go to a general one or one who specializes in AS?

Thank you.


Imaginative and creativeness is un-aspie?

if anything I thing I think my imagination and creativeness are enhanced far beyond an average person because of my AS.

see a different psychologist. the other one is a bum.
Alot of the most intelligent and articulate people in history likely had AS Isaac Newton is one that comes to mind.
Have you ever read any stories involving Socrates in social situations and his overall behavior?

before I know I had AS I sort of listed all these unique traits that I have that no one I knew had (my dad seemed to have some) and when I would read about people like Newton, Socrates, Thomas Jefferson, Mozart, Albert Einstein, numorous quirky geniuses (most of whom extremely intellegent yet struggled in schools, and corrected teachers etc.) throughout history. I became fascinated by how much they behaved and thought the way I do and how I could relate to them oftentimes more than I could to my peers or my peers to them. I thought I must be some sort of rare genius. I then found out my traits had a name. and I also found out from a psychologist that I really do have the potential to be a genius.



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18 Jul 2008, 5:50 pm

I have both AS and ADHD and a possible sensory integration disorder(according to my psychologist) and its funny looking at the reports of me in 1991 and how they completely stretched the diagnosis of ADHD to cover everything because AS was not really known until the late 1990s.



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18 Jul 2008, 10:14 pm

BrixBrix wrote:
Angnix wrote:
Same issues here! I've been ruled out because the therapist thought AS people DON'T like to share there obcessive interest and the are more OCD than me... see an expert, I'm seriously thinking about it myself... I have mental illness also, complicating the issue.
Your therapist is totally wrong.

AS people usually enjoy talking about their interests. For some Aspies, it's the only thing you can get them to talk about. lol


yeah... I like this last part... the only way to get me in a conversation is to talk about something I like (special interest....)

Well, most psychologist thinks that if you are not a little child or a very dysfunctional person you don't have HFA or AS.
And the 10 minutes thing... it's becoming very normal way of diagnosis, or not? My last (health service one) psychiatrist gave me carbolythium and was sure about my bipolar disorder in 10 minutes (and I don't have it!). I said "thank you doctor" and now I PAY for a better doctor or at least someone that tries harder to find it out.
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