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22 Aug 2008, 10:30 pm

Do you sometimes play the devils advocate just for the sake of disagreeing or pointing out the opposite point of view? I do this to get a better picture of the idea and it mostly just pisses people off. My intent is not to be an a**hole but to get to the truth quickly and not beat around the bush with emotional attachments. I only seem to do well with this with drunk people. Sober people seem to be more tightly bound to their cultural beliefs. It seems to be easier to bring men out of their shell if I am half naked too. Therefore I like being the devils advocate as it brings out what people really think. Since most women don't appear to think, this conduct doesn't apply to them. However, I get really excited intellectually by playing the devil's advocate while appearing promiscuous. :P



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22 Aug 2008, 10:32 pm

I also tend to do this alot and I think people do get pissed off until I tell them I'm just trying to look at it from both standpoints. It's a logical thing to do really.


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22 Aug 2008, 11:00 pm

Sometimes, catching someone with their inhibitions even slightly lowered can yield some pretty unsavory points of view on topics they'd normally be careful with, I've found. i.e. insecurities, racist remarks, jealousy, people they secretly hate, and worst of all, what a really 'GREAT GUY' (ok...) they think you are and how they 'LOVE YOU,' (I understand) and also 'no, no, but really... I think you're... a really GREAT GUY, (uh-huh.) ok? (ok.) ok?' (ok.)



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22 Aug 2008, 11:01 pm

Yes, I do this and sometimes I like that it pisses people off.



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22 Aug 2008, 11:07 pm

almost always, even if i dont agree with the da point of view



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23 Aug 2008, 12:25 am

Magnus wrote:
while appearing promiscuous. :P


No offense, but guys will probably lose respect for you, even if they find you attractive.



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23 Aug 2008, 1:02 am

Frankly, the idea that an aspie would play devil's advocate is ridiculous. First, there is the intolerance for the unknown or unpredictable. Second, people being pissed off may be overwhelming for many aspies. Third, I don't like the sound of the word devil; you make us sound like satanists. I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, but I think you're wrong.



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23 Aug 2008, 1:17 am

^^^^^I don't seem to understand what you are saying AT ALL. Your post makes no sense. Um, help?


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23 Aug 2008, 1:59 am

If I believe in said position or think it's worth considering in reaching a conclusion or solution. However, I can never manage to properly take the side of something I in no way believe is true or right, or that I know won't hold up against criticism, just to point out that such a side does exist... I too easily go into defending what I see as the "right" position when I try to. Really defending a position that I can't see the merits in feels like lying.



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23 Aug 2008, 2:10 am

If given the time I'll play devils advocate in my head when contemplating complex ideas I have about various things. I find it illuminating.



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23 Aug 2008, 4:05 am

Don't play devil's advocate merely for the sake of playing devil's advocate. That is without use and very irritating.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:12 am

slowmutant wrote:
Don't play devil's advocate merely for the sake of playing devil's advocate. That is without use and very irritating.


It is not without use if it makes someone see their's is not the only point of view...the irritation is just a plus.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:20 am

Magnus wrote:
Do you sometimes play the devils advocate just for the sake of disagreeing or pointing out the opposite point of view? I do this to get a better picture of the idea and it mostly just pisses people off. My intent is not to be an a**hole but to get to the truth quickly and not beat around the bush with emotional attachments. I only seem to do well with this with drunk people. Sober people seem to be more tightly bound to their cultural beliefs. It seems to be easier to bring men out of their shell if I am half naked too. Therefore I like being the devils advocate as it brings out what people really think. Since most women don't appear to think, this conduct doesn't apply to them. However, I get really excited intellectually by playing the devil's advocate while appearing promiscuous. :P


I absolutely LOVE arguing with people! Especially on the internet where no one can punch me in the nose. I am not confrontational in real life, am very quiet and extremely passive because I have had way more drama and craziness than anyone deserves in one lifetime. So, I just stay quiet and don't really interact much in real life, it's so exhausting!

On the internet it's much better because I can discuss stuff without as much nastiness as people give me in real life. Around here you aren't allowed to stand up for yourself, unless, of course, you are an asshole-like WASP that fits in perfectly.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:51 am

Daniel's advocate.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:56 am

nettiespaghetti wrote:
I also tend to do this alot and I think people do get pissed off until I tell them I'm just trying to look at it from both standpoints. It's a logical thing to do really.


But is it the socially intelligent thing to do? Sometimes, SQ trumps logic.



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23 Aug 2008, 1:35 pm

I do this to my detriment...

Unfortunately I'm good at offending people, confusing them, or irritating them with this. Accused of "not getting women" when a lady friend pointed out how I always took her boyfriend's side when she told me a story of something that had happened. I didn't even like the guy! She came to me looking for someone to agree with her (and I try!), but I can't seem to help meself, lol.

I've been called argumentive many a time. I'm not going to argue with the stupidity of arguing with people that agree with me, it's just part of me. I can't get rid of it, even if I tried.


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