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14 Sep 2008, 1:20 pm

I can be very mean if i am insulted,i hit back at my opponents where it hurts the most,i dont mean physically ofcourse.I pull out my oppresor's skeletons,out of the closet and he or she really regrets that they rubbed me the wrong way.so they keep a safe distance fom me.i may not be popular socially but no one dares to mess with me.I know what i am doing is not right but this is the only way i can fight back.I am not good at subtleness or small talk for that matter.



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14 Sep 2008, 1:23 pm

anyone can be mean given motive.



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14 Sep 2008, 1:27 pm

survivor wrote:
I can be very mean if i am insulted,i hit back at my opponents where it hurts the most,i dont mean physically ofcourse.I pull out my oppresor's skeletons,out of the closet and he or she really regrets that they rubbed me the wrong way.so they keep a safe distance fom me.i may not be popular socially but no one dares to mess with me.I know what i am doing is not right but this is the only way i can fight back.I am not good at subtleness or small talk for that matter.


that's not hard for a person that's not guided my emotions. unless you meltdown ofcourse.


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14 Sep 2008, 1:59 pm

survivor wrote:
I can be very mean if i am insulted,i hit back at my opponents where it hurts the most,i dont mean physically ofcourse.I pull out my oppresor's skeletons,out of the closet and he or she really regrets that they rubbed me the wrong way.so they keep a safe distance fom me.i may not be popular socially but no one dares to mess with me.I know what i am doing is not right but this is the only way i can fight back.I am not good at subtleness or small talk for that matter.


I'm not good at small talk, either. Why waste time trying to dance around people's feelings? I can be very mean, too, when I want to be, but not here. I know that a lot of people here don't honestly intend to hurt feelings when they speak, so I try to ignore it and move on.


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14 Sep 2008, 2:07 pm

survivor wrote:
I can be very mean if i am insulted,i hit back at my opponents where it hurts the most,i dont mean physically ofcourse.I pull out my oppresor's skeletons,out of the closet and he or she really regrets that they rubbed me the wrong way.so they keep a safe distance fom me.i may not be popular socially but no one dares to mess with me.I know what i am doing is not right but this is the only way i can fight back.I am not good at subtleness or small talk for that matter.


This is one of the few places where I try to be my true self (and really even if I come across abrupt or sarcastic at times I really am a nice person) but the problem is, if I have been attacked in anyway (I take way too many things personally) But I mean if someone is going to judge me and not listen what I have to say, how else am I supposed to react? I will become very nasty and this explains why I have been banned from many forums. This is one of the few places where others understand where I am coming from.


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14 Sep 2008, 2:10 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
anyone can be mean given motive.
Exactly. Aspies aren't all stuff and fluff. Aspies can be mean too.



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14 Sep 2008, 2:33 pm

NEWSFLASH

AS does NOT come bundled with a halo. :)

I can be a b***h from hell when I feel threatened...and ten times worse if someone else is threatened in front of me...

I guess it's all that stands between me and being a doormat (or a saint).

We can't read people, so we have to analyse them, which means that we tend to wind up with a lot of superfluous insight into things like the "skeletons in closets" that NTs don't have...we are also human, and if somebody p*sses us off enough, we will use whatever we can...just like anyone else.

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14 Sep 2008, 2:34 pm

I'm usually a very nice person, but I do have a tendency to snap at people, and I will verbally attack people who I believe wronged me in some way (though this usually only takes place online due to my fear of confrontation in the real world).

I've noticed that most of the other aspies I've been into contact with have been rude to me at one point or another. It's that trademark brutal honesty...



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14 Sep 2008, 2:47 pm

I am a sinner who chases after sainthood like a puppy chases after his master.



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14 Sep 2008, 2:52 pm

Sometimes I damage a person by accident, but most of the times I try to repair that.

From experience I learned to be patient with people, try to give the some room, before attacking them back. This way I avoided much trouble by reacting too sharp. But my patience is not eternal.

So when people are pushing me too far, then they get the problem when they go even further. When that time comes I warned them enough and it is time to take steps. I gather material and evidence, and than I am joining the fight for one reason only, that is winning. So if it means damaging a person, than that person is going to be damaged bad.



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14 Sep 2008, 4:03 pm

I hate fighting because I know what a b*$&@45 I can be. However, when I'm finally pushed to that point, my autistic rage is either very violent or very vindictive, or sometimes both.


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14 Sep 2008, 4:30 pm

Well, I tend to have a long memory when I am wronged. They may NEVER know what I know, until they lie about me. THEN, the stuff will gradually come out. If they REALLY push me, they may see it all at once.



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14 Sep 2008, 6:18 pm

I can be grouchy and do or say things I regret later, but I have a hard time actually truly wishing anyone harm even when I'm grouchy (and generally feel bad about it even at the time), or even when I'm wronged. I also rarely truly dislike someone, it takes a lot to get me to that point. I have noticed in interactions with other people, that many people (autistic or not) have far more likes and dislikes (people-related or otherwise) than I do. Mine tend to be confined to small areas, and they can be strong within those areas sometimes, or not as strong. But most of the world, I have no particular huge like or dislike for. And even people I truly dislike very much, I have trouble wishing harm on or hating. I have trouble even holding a grudge. I can get mad at people but that's different (less long-lasting).

I am actually on fairly good terms with a number of people who have wronged me in the past, all I require for that to happen, is that they stop and seem as if they are not likely to continue (I avoid those who continue, but I don't generally seek out information on or interaction with them, why dwell on that kind of nastiness, and why let their meanness poison my mind or life?). I certainly don't forget what people have done, but I do forgive.

But those are aspects of my personality that have nothing to do with being autistic, and, yes, many autistic people can be mean, just like non-autistic people can. And despite not being particularly mean, I've certainly had my moments from time to time. I'm not claiming to be an angel, I just seem to have a different personality that way than most people in general.


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14 Sep 2008, 7:13 pm

mechanima wrote:
NEWSFLASH

AS does NOT come bundled with a halo. :)

I can be a b***h from hell when I feel threatened...and ten times worse if someone else is threatened in front of me...

I guess it's all that stands between me and being a doormat (or a saint).

We can't read people, so we have to analyse them, which means that we tend to wind up with a lot of superfluous insight into things like the "skeletons in closets" that NTs don't have...we are also human, and if somebody p*sses us off enough, we will use whatever we can...just like anyone else.

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So true :D



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14 Sep 2008, 7:20 pm

Pobodys_Nerfect wrote:
mechanima wrote:
NEWSFLASH

AS does NOT come bundled with a halo. :)

I can be a b***h from hell when I feel threatened...and ten times worse if someone else is threatened in front of me...

I guess it's all that stands between me and being a doormat (or a saint).

We can't read people, so we have to analyse them, which means that we tend to wind up with a lot of superfluous insight into things like the "skeletons in closets" that NTs don't have...we are also human, and if somebody p*sses us off enough, we will use whatever we can...just like anyone else.

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So true :D


Yeah. I'm getting a little tired of the misconception that we're all saints.



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14 Sep 2008, 7:49 pm

survivor wrote:
I can be very mean if i am insulted,i hit back at my opponents where it hurts the most,i dont mean physically ofcourse.I pull out my oppresor's skeletons,out of the closet and he or she really regrets that they rubbed me the wrong way.so they keep a safe distance fom me.i may not be popular socially but no one dares to mess with me.I know what i am doing is not right but this is the only way i can fight back.I am not good at subtleness or small talk for that matter.


Ditto, ditto, ditto!

In recent years I've tried to master the socially acceptable passive-aggressive way (especially with those higher in the social hierarchy who have lots of backup), with little success.

Äs mechanima said, I can be very effective hitting back, because I have this deep analysis instead of intuition which gives me an insight into the weaknesses of the other and how to hurt them the most with just words. I always say the last word, I've yet to see someone who doesn't end up shutting up. I only make use of this when the person has been really mean to me, though.


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