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30 Nov 2008, 11:15 am

Some that I have not seen mentioned...

LV from the movie "Little Voice"...and also her love interest played by Ewan MacGregor...(a great AS-ish love story movie that i have watched over andover and ove again...)

Gelsomina from Fellini's La Strada...another movie I am obsessed with...

Butters....compared to the other kids on South Park...(as a kid I personally was kind of a cross between Butters and Ralph Wiggam)

Amelia Bedilia (from the kids books)

Lydia (Amanda Plummer's character in the Fisher King)

um....theres more...that have not been mentioned...can't think of them...

oh yeah...anyone see the movie "the Other Sister?"...They seemed very AS-ish..I could not figure out what the mental issue the characters were supposed to have...I think it was supposed to be retardation..but they seemed alot more ASish to me..if it weren't for the slurred speech...



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30 Nov 2008, 11:19 am

TPE2 wrote:
In these kind of threads ("fictional characters with AS", "historic figures with AS", etc.), the criteria "marked social impairment and repetitive, obsessive behaviour" quickly becomes "marked social impairment or repetitive, obsessive behaviour"...

After all, people are "diagnosing" Hercule Poirot (obsessive behaviour, but no problem with social interaction - indeed, he is very good at initiating "casual" talk with other people during the investigations) and Adrian Mole and Lisa Simpson (social problems, but IMO, no significant repetitive/obsessive behaviour - well, there is the passion of Mole by Pandora, but, for "begining of adolescence standards", does not seem unusually obsessive)


Well, I still stand by Charlie Brown. He had social problems, and he´s definitely obsessive. :)


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30 Nov 2008, 1:51 pm

Matilda!



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30 Nov 2008, 1:55 pm

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She could do amazing things physically. Was an adventurer.


since when are those aspie traits...? 8O

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Embodiment of someone who was a unique, self-contained creature driven by her own agendas and pursuits with total lack of consciousness of the views of others.


she just didn't give a f***


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30 Nov 2008, 5:25 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:
Jake Gyllenhaal's character in Zodiac.


not a fictional character


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30 Nov 2008, 5:38 pm

As I've just found out. Oh well.. he is as aspie as they come though!


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30 Nov 2008, 6:01 pm

I am a bit of a trekkie and I think that the Star Fleet officer Lieutenant Reginald Barclay In Star Trek: The Next Generation and Voyager has Asperger syndrome. He tried to get on with people on the Enterprise but he found this difficult even though his work was Ok. He was later seen on an episode of Star Trek: Voyager in which Lietenant Barclay created a holodeck simulation and socialised with the holographic crew. He also worked on them creating an artificial quantum singularity or wormhole so the Voyager crew could communicate to their colleagues and loved ones in Federation space from the Delta Quadrant of the Milky Way. At the time he was being counselled by Lieutenant Deanna Troi (who is half Betazoid) called his cat Neelix after the Talaxian chef aboard Voyager. Creating an artificial wormhole must be some feat of intelligence or the use of Barclays Asperger syndrome it could be. :idea:



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30 Nov 2008, 6:38 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:
As I've just found out. Oh well.. he is as aspie as they come though!


that I agree with :D


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30 Nov 2008, 7:18 pm

A couple of sf ones, both of whom I found a great sympathy with: Felka (although she's probably more properly a classic autistic-savant), from Alastair Reynolds Revelation Space books. And possibly Fallom, from Asimovs Foundation and Earth.

And my all-time favourite fictional character(s?), Macey / Thomas / Tom from my all time favourite book, Red Shift, by Alan Garner. It's a very, very bleak book.
Macey: fascinated by spinning objects, flips into insanity, surrounded by "friends" he doesn't understand.
Thomas: treated as a fool, doesn't have the words to say things right.
Tom: Literal, obsessive (with words and codes and science), driven to despair by his inability to maintain a relationship.

I guess Red Shift counts as an obsession with me, as I've been totally fascinated since I first read it as a child. I didn't understand it much then - it's about madness and sex (very, very loosely based on the Tam Lin story), but the sex is only ever alluded to, and went right over my head at the time. I've even bought a half dozen copies of the book to give to other people, which I guess is a terrible social faux pas. Heh. Get yourselves a copy, go on! :)


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30 Nov 2008, 9:33 pm

DeLoreanDude wrote:
-Moss and Roy from The IT Crowd
-Ross from Friends


I wouldn't say Roy or Ross... but Moss definatley.


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01 Dec 2008, 7:47 am

Clumsy Bella Swan from the Twilight novels. (pre-change of course)

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01 Dec 2008, 8:15 am

Gotta agree w/Edward Scissorhands.

Identified so strongly. Can't even watch the thing now. Great film, but just can't watch it.



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01 Dec 2008, 8:15 am

anna-banana wrote:
MizLiz wrote:
AnnePande wrote:
Pippi Longstocking (btw an old childhood obsession of mine). :D


! !! ! AHHHH! That makes so much sense now that I think about it! She's "precocious" "quirky" and any other adjective people used to describe her they could have just said...

No. She has AS.

I also really loved Pippi.


what other traits apart from "quirky" did she have?

none.


Oh yes, I think so:

- She often understood things very literally.

- She didn't care about if her clothes were "socially acceptable".

- She wasn't great at understanding social cues (and indeed she didn't act like she did in order to be rude, because she'd often regret afterwards).

- She was kind of a loner, living together with two animals (no cats though - and she did have 2 very good friends).

- She disliked authorities.

- She had her own kind of logic and tended to think out of the box (all the time, actually).

- (She chews her hair, a kind of stim, but an NT could do that too, of course)

- She does everything her own way (even if others / NTs may think it's more troublesome).

- She sleeps with her head under her blanket and the feet on her pillow (do we see a sensory issue thing here?? - some aspies like to have something over their head eg. while sleeping, I myself can't sleep without the head under the quilt, but I do have the head on my pillow).

There might be more things. :)



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01 Dec 2008, 8:52 am

melissa17b wrote:
Forrest Gump?

He personifies at least some essential aspects of autistic experience.
He's definately not an aspie though



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01 Dec 2008, 8:54 am

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01 Dec 2008, 9:01 am

MartyMoose wrote:
melissa17b wrote:
Forrest Gump?

He personifies at least some essential aspects of autistic experience.
He's definately not an aspie though


Second that. Not an Aspie.

It would never be a drama that an Aspie is accepted and renowned because he keeps doing things that people think are more important and moving than he thinks they are. That's the reverse of the usual problem. I.e. People usually don't assume Aspies are more than what they are, since their problem isn't primarily retardation. People usually assume Aspies are less than what they are, on account of social skills deficits.

In the sense that there is a disconnect between Forest Gump's outward performance and his fundamental talents, tho, that is similar to an Asperger experience. And the fact that his ability to love exists separate and apart from his cognitive function difference. I.e. he had a remarkable ability to love appropriately despite his lack of a clue.