Chronic Mycoplasmal Infections in Autism

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http://www.zeoliteautismstudy.com/home/ ... &Itemid=86

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/574944

...how come no one here talked about this before?

Thanks for posting this! I think I might have an issue with this!

^ how come posting an autism-related study in Autism forum is spam?

Well I was looking for the science journal it might have come from, and I didn't see any. So I could only conclude it was a study posted by that site to sell its product. It would be like a headache study posted on Head On's website to sell their Head On.

I couldn't view the Medscape article because I don't have a login. Was the study actually published in a legit science journal?

nvm

Strange. I got the paper right away.

Anyways, thanks for posting this.

in fact , the study was originally posted on http://www.immed.org/GulfWarIllness/CMI ... tients.pdf

The institution for molecular study.

The chief of this study seems reputable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_l._nicolson


This study is very well documented , it would be hard to be done by fakers.


Mage, I guess you are one of those aspies who refuse the possible vaccination link to autism and automatically refuse any evidence about it , yet you would quickly adopt any other evidence that contradicts it.

Nope, it's just the first question I ask when I see a research study is, "Where was it published?" I do apologize if it was in fact published in a legitimate science journal before that spam site adopted it.

"What are the credentials of the principle researchers?"

"Who paid for the study?"

"Is the conclusion supported or refuted by peer-group review?"

"Was the date of publication on the first day of April in any year?"

I love how they sample a questionable sub-sample of the population and then slap on the catch phrase in the opening sentence of their abstract, "A majority of Autism patients have systemic bacterial, viral and fungal infections that may play an important part in their illnesses." And that statement isn't even cited.

Also... where did their results go? Right as you're about to see the meat of it, the page goes to something else. Oh well, lost my attention. Guess that's what pages like this want... Most people are just interested in the buildup of the story anyway... and that somehow by absorbing that, it becomes true? /shrug

edit: im silly... think my links weren't working. found the paper, will give it a read... maybe it substantiates that first opening sentence.

This is so much like a weird problem I have.

I'm very healthy, but am prone to pneumonia and urinary tract infections. I've had pneumonia several times. And I'm so healthy I hardly even catch colds!

Uhh... no, this is really bad science. You know how big their sample of children with autism was?

18.

That's horrible. It means a really large probability of arriving at the wrong conclusion even with perfect methodology. Which they also didn't have.

Where the heck is the random sampling? They totally left out how they picked their study subjects.

And there's no cause and effect here, either: Just because Gulf War syndrome and CFS patients are more likely to have bacterial infections doesn't mean the infections caused either condition. IMO it is far more likely that the depressed immune systems in both (ill-defined) conditions simply leave the body open to infections--from bacteria which, incidentally, are rather common and more opportunistic than anything else.

They also didn't actually give the numbers they got from the autistic kids.

You know what really does a number on your immune system? Stress. Including stress caused by being an autistic child living with a curebie parent... And I wouldn't be surprised if those kids were exactly that--the study's total lack of a selection process is a big red flag.

Oh, and you know, the interesting thing about mycoplasma... is that it's not a single species... there are different kinds... and some of them are not even parasitic. The authors of the study seemed to be totally oblivious to that. And to the fact that this particular type of bacteria is TINY, so that it's really easy to miss, and often ends up contaminating laboratory slides.