Temper Tantrums

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Has anyone heard of or had temper tantrums like the following (mainly dealing with children, but adult stories are cool):

Anger; outrage; violent, especially to inanimate objects; no tears; with a name the person gives themselves for when they are in this phase that is very creative in fact

followed by a sporatic

self calm

which instantly follows with

tears; still like a tantrum but from angry to sad; strong guilt and remorse for the tantrum; feelings that the world is better off without "me"; talks of suicide as a favor to the world

It doesn't sound very unusual. What I'm getting from your description is that they wish that they could control the tantrums, but don't have the ability or the training to do so despite trying, and feel awful about losing control.

If it were random in onset or they got incoherent during the "tantrum" that would make me think "get them checked for brain problems" but this doesn't seem like it goes that far.

So Thank You. It sounds like a very good way to describe it. In fact, that's what I really think is going on because my sister is the critical parent, and her poor son just wants to be a good kid.

remember, talk of suicide does not always mean they want to do away with themselves, sometimes . . .most times . . .it is because people want a choice between what they find themselves stuck in and when we are very frustrated with the slowness of change it is like a safety valve. Like any escape it can go too far.

Merle

Thank you Merle. That's good advice, and I need to remind my sister of that.

I am a world champion door slammer (things falling off walls in rooms on other side of house, etc.). Usually, my tantrum/madness is followed by a sometimes eeire calm, followed by tears not of remorse but of worthlessness/uselessness.

some of us don't mean to freak other people out with talk of suicide, it just seems so logical to us that we wouldn't have these issues if we weren't around to have the issues. Honest, we just don't want the issues. We just want OUT of the issues and it is the only thing that seems to fill the bill.

sorry that that is like that. I was very small when I started wanting that, and later it was a habit that followed me all my life. Just go step by step with him, showing other ways to extricate himself from each coil he gets into. All the best to you and your sister and him.

Merle

Sounds like me before Zoloft.

I was still like that on Zoloft. I am like that off of Zoloft. As I said, it became a lifelong habit. At almost 60 I don't think that I am going to act on it. Like I said, it is trying to find an option to frustration.


Merle

Yeah, my seizures are a lot like this; I don't get them that often now except when I stay up really late (sometimes I don't get any sleep the whole night, eep). But as a kid I also had sensory-induced meltdowns followed by guilt that looked a lot the same, so don't immediately freak out, but it's a good idea to check anyway I mean it was about 5 years from the time seizures were suspected until I started medication, and I do have some convulsive seizures (some people's seizures don't even lose conscisuous0), and seizures are more common for autistic people anyway.