Racism

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I know nobody is going to flat out say they are racist on this thing, but I wonder if Aspies are less apt to be racist.

In my mind, skin color is a genetic trait like eye and hair color. I really never seen it as anything but that.

I seem to have a hard time understanding how people do see it as more. Like the n-bomb can only be said by black people but not white people. But white people are allowed to say nizzle which is the same thing right? And, i guess if you are hispanic, it depends on who you are talking to because some may argue that J-Lo isn't black enough to say the n-bomb, but she is black because she's Puerto Rican, and like many hispanics, she is black, white, and Indian. I swear this whole concept is ridiculous, but many NT's around me swear it makes sense. I get deemed racist if I believe nobody should be saying the n-bomb at all because I guess black people have earned their right to use the word through oppression, and I just don't understand that at all. I just don't see why anything should be different for one group of people, and I think by promoting that difference only eggs it on more. I guess there's a social side to race that I just don't understand at all because I'm still stuck on seeing it as a genetic thing.

What do you all think?

From what I've seen around here (this forum), a lot of people are often very prejudice (especially against "NTs"). I wouldn't be surprised if the majority are racist, too. I hate racism. I actually once lived in a small town where everyone was white (as am I) and I couldn't stand it one bit. I guess it's because I grew up in very diverse areas. I'm the type that'll get along with anyone, as long as they're nice.

As a white South African raised by racist parents I was racist as a child, but I grew out of it. I'm not racist at all, but I do enjoy some taboo racist humour.

I hate really uptight non-racist people who go out of their way to prove that they're politically correct.

I'm a mixed-race Aspie and agree skin color is just a genetic trait.

I live in an almost-white part of Portland
where white people reside on one side and black people
reside on the other side.

It's not slummy nor ghetto-ized, but it's freaky!
Living in a certain part of Portland depends on how much money you make.

I hate racism!

everybody has a room in god's hotel.........

I hav a very slightmount of native american in me, but its so little you can just call me white. As for racism, I have made some comments that some people misinterpret as being racist, but I am far from it. Personally, I can't stand seeing people who are intolerant of anyone for any reason other than "They won't stop harrassing me" and that is not a reason to stereotype everyone of that group to be that way either. A quote of mine I like: I hate noone, for noone has ever done anything to me that is bad enough to deserve hating, although there are a few people that have come very close.

Nah I'm not.
I had a friend in high school, he had a good quote. He would say that he had no problem with black people, but hated n****rs of any color. Obviously he used the term to describe personality rather than any race.

I have a keychain somebody gave me, it says "I do not descriminate, I hate everyone."
I really don't though.

I had a black boyfriend once. He was really amazing, a great man.

But I am prejudiced. It's hard to have any notions about what cultures are like and what people say, without injecting bias.

I have notions about people and their products all the time, like how Arab Muslims treat their women and how food imported from China can't be trusted, etc. I don't like to buy American cars, although it's been years since I've researched how their reliability and quality ratings are. I have a hold-over belief that Americans make inferior products (compared to Japanese & German, say).

These are all biases. If we didn't act on biases, we would have to research everything fresh, every time we had to revisit something we had previously researched and decided on.

Where prejudice and bias is most destructive is in the belief that any notion about a group (1) is right (if you are in a position to be making decisions about groups it's your responsibility to research each circumstance from the ground up), and (2) can be applied to any particular individual in the group.

I.e. so you may see that 100 people from country Y refuse to give to charity. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't invite a person from country Y to your charity picnic out of expectation that they will not give, when everyone else in your neighborhood is being invited.

A teacher once explained to us his view on racism. He said it is essentially someone placing his faults on another. So in effect he places all his negative characteristics on the shoulders of someone else. His hatred of himself is translated as a hatred of others, using the difference of colour as his justification.

I'm tolerant of all races. This sounds weird, but I often don't even realise that someone is black, white or whatever. We're all human, right?

However, I'm not one of those really irritating people who try so hard not to offend people that they offend everyone even more. Those people are just annoying. I can have a good laugh at a joke that isn't exactly PC, as long as it doesn't cross the line between joking and plain nastiness.

Example:

"Why do Jews have big noses? Cos air is free so they want lots of it." = joke.

But, "Where do black Jews come from? Back of the oven." = crossing the line, IMO.

There's a boy in my class called Carter who is so unbelievably racist you don't know whether to laugh at his stupidity or punch him for his ignorance. Every time a teacher mentions immigration, black people, Muslims, or anything else he has opinions on, he starts an audible-in-Essex rant about said race of people, so the whole class is like, "Carter's opinions again!" in a jokey way, then ten seconds later Carter is normally outside the classroom in disgrace for being offensive.

On the other hand, during a history lesson about Victorian schooling and the sexism that happened systematically, a boy very cautiously asked the teacher, "Would, um, darker-skinned people be allowed to be educated?" Now that pissed me off slightly, as in no free society is it offensive to describe black people as black people, as long as it is not said in a derogatory way.

Rant over, people!

Personally I'm not a racist, though I do judge people when I look at them and I won't deny it.

If you're wearing your pants around your hips and a hat with the tags on it sideways, I won't respect you. I will avoid you. I don't care if you're black, white, or pink with blue polka dots.

I am white, but I think that the best looking and most respectable business men and business women are confident, well groomed and well dressed black business people. I think black men look so great in suits, much better than white men, and likewise I think confident black women are really respectable and attractive.

But, until the black organizations, black magazines, and feeling that they're owed something goes away, there will always be prejudice.

Racism itself is unavoidable. You will notice race no matter what. However, it's a matter of what you do and do not attach to races. Race is a color, a genetic trait, nothing else to me. Racist and prejudice people attach more than that to a race.

there is.



my n***a, don't feel bad





That's funny.

EDIT: also see

If you take a negative trait from one person and apply it to his race, that is racism
"My class mate joe is black and he lies and cheats; therefore, black people are liars and cheaters"

If you take a negative trait common among a race, then apply it to an individual because he is that race, that is racism.
"Most crimes are commited by blacks; therefore, my classmate joe is probably going to commit crimes"

These are completely wrong assumptions to make. However: sometimes when there is a factual statement that reflects poorly on a race, it is often suppressed because no one wants to sound racist for saying it. For instance, it is a fact that statistically, you are more likely to get mugged by a black man. That's a fact. But it's not anymore racist than saying that statistically, men are more likely to commit rape is sexist---its a fact. Rapists commit evil acts. Muggers commit evil acts. If it so happens that most of the people that commit these acts are of a certain group, we can debate WHY that is, but we should not be afraid of discussing it.

Why are blacks in the state they are in? (or other minorities). The cause and effect can be complex and cyclical. The politically correct notion is that it is simply because of racism. Blacks are poor because racism prevented them from getting jobs, and so they are forced by oppression to do things like rob and do drugs. There is no denying that our situation today is affected highly by past injustices and racism, and some current ones.

However, I think that culture is the key. URBAN culture---a term I MUCH prefer to "black culture" because ANYONE can live in the ghetto and its lifestyle--it just so happens that most are black. I will not attack "black culture" because I dont' think it's the best term---I will however attack URBAN culture for its denigration of black people and women. Rap songs and videos often complain about discrimination and stereotypes, and then perpetuate that very stereotype by glorifying debauchery!

I have some good black friends. I also love hip hop, jazz, break dancing, etc (aspects of urban culture). But I hate it when because I'm white, I'm not allowed to point out issues within black society (or urban society) without being accused of racism, or having to guard my words, while someone who is black is given license to celebrate immorality and then say, hey man, its part of my culture. If its part of your culture, then you need to do something about your culture. Something needs to change in black/urban culture, that's WAY more pressing a need than reducing discrimination (which is AWFUL too of course).

I find racism against blacks very taboo in public circles, but in private circles, racism can be disgusting---get some white southerners together who hate both political correctness AND minorities, and you'll get some seriously dehumanizing jokes and conversations (I grew up in Virginia). I was VERY bothered when I saw on the news an elderly and respected black man had a swastika and the n word carved in his door. Awful stuff. But I'm also very bothered when I watch BET music videos denigrate women and ENCOURAGE young black boys to engage in destructive behavior---destructive to not only them, but their entire community, the black community. Just because I will point out the immorality of a black gangster rapper, doesn't mean I'm pointing out the immorality of my black neighbor. I judge people according to their individual merits. So when I do that and still have to guard myself so people don't accuse me of racism, it bugs me.

In high school, the "ghetto blacks" (or rather, pretending to be ghetto despite living in a small farming town) were the ones I had to be careful around, becuase they were obsessed with talking about race---so they saw racism in EVERYTHING. Or they would joke every single time someone did or said something to them, "it's cuz I'm black, isn't it?" It was a joke, but it stopped being funny pretty soon, because it showed that was honestly what they immediately thought of. That becomes an us vs them mentality, so that they ended up being racist against whites themselves. The rednecks would get with their redneck friends and mock blacks. But the blacks would get with blacks whites teachers principals, and mock white culture or imply racism everywhere, and get approval. I had a black guy who was making a joke about me and referred to me as 'that skinny white boy'. I wanted to ask him how he'd like to be referred to as 'that skinny black boy' but of course, had to hold my tongue because he might have gotten really mad---even though my purpose would NOT be to call him that, but to show him how calling someone a name based on their race is offensive.

Anyway, when I talk about 'them' please note that I'm talking about a mentality that a group of kids had, who were black---I'm not talking about black people in general (also, there were plenty of white kids who were also part of the ghetto group--they just wernt allowed to say the n word)

omgosh i knew a couple ppl from south africa, i loveee ur accents hehe!



anyways i notice that as well, i'm not racist at all, i watch ppl say horrible things, about different races, and i always wonder why, especially since we all bleed the same way, inside were so much alike, the only difference is the color of our skin, and so what? ya know. I remember i was playin basketball ok well i was running around in circles with the basketball during one of the games lol, def a funny site, anyways, and there was this black guy, now i heard ppl call him n***a before, i guess it wasnt racist, but of course i say "n****r" instead lol, yep that'll be me lol. Anyways the black guy who i cant remember his name for the life of me, from the domeinican republic just smiled and tickled me then patted my head as he stole the ball from me. After I said it, i was like "holy crap age, its n***a, not n****r, wtf is wrong with u lol" thankfully i guess idk if i wasn't disabled maybe it woulda been bad or if i wasnt a girl, who knows, but he didnt care one bit. I never understood why we gave such bad names to certian colors of ppl, it doesnt make any sense to me.

To clarify, my username is kinda in irony, LOL, cos I live in a really small village full of old people where there's basically no crime, and when there is it gets blown up into epic proportions when it started as almost nothing. It's as unghetto as you can get!

I enjoy telling a racist joke every now and then. I'm not going to claim I'm not racist. Everyone is racist to some extent, whether they admit it or not.

Here a joke that I think is funny

"Why can't Mexicans became firemen? Because they can't tell the difference between Jose and Hose B."