Political views and helping the vunerable:

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28 Dec 2008, 6:11 pm

I think that everybody should do there share to help in this world especially those living the high-life and well off.
Me and my Mum do voluntary and we're nt well off at all, I think it's just plain ignorant and naive if others wouldn't give help to another off there own back.
How can people be ignorant enough to ignore poverty and the homeless and other such things? (rhetorical question).
I think it's a shame that governments don't seem to prioritize these situations as much as they could, and that global warming will destroy the world before this is resolved and I see that as neglect of your own kind and I don't see how it can be excused.
There's celebrities that earn thousadnds each day, I know that a share of that would contribute to there profession but nobody needs so much.
If governments and celebrities put there money together I bet they could solve global poverty twice over.
What is the Queen to to millions of helpless and starving people?
As a British citizan I know that royalty is what England is based upon but at the end of the day she is one person who doesn't do much except for make money.

War is greed and ignorance, I don't see why governments can't just sit around a table and comprimize about there issues, and they say that you should talk instead of fight? They don't set a good example, that's where the words greed and immature come in...
Yet they use money to destroy lives, how ironic.

Comment back if you think the same way or share your views :)


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28 Dec 2008, 6:14 pm

My fvoute quote: "If everyone were to act as one global united community, supporting all its members, each and every person would be able to live to the fullest of their personnal, unique self, contributing to the bettering of society as a whole and experiencing life as they were meant to live it." --- Myself



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28 Dec 2008, 6:19 pm

I agree with that quote.


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28 Dec 2008, 6:59 pm

Hey, jmfoster, I enoy seeing your views on this subject.

The paragraphs I've written below come from my experience, that of the motel living, and even some temporary stints as actually being homeless as a child/teen with my parents. There are far worse scenarios, so my words aren't to elevate this situation on a level as the more pressing situations (like those homeless veterans, homeless mentally ill, or runaways, or kids living in gang lifestyles).

For 7 years of my life my family lived the transient lifestyle of moving from motel to motel, room to room. This is called "homeless" lifestyle, but I don't see that, as we had a roof, a bed (yes, A single bed, for 4/5 people, lol), a television, and a refrigerator. I think it's called "homeless" to draw attention to the situation, however, I don't see why this is done when there is a perfectly obvious problem that is constant instability.

Anyway, in Orange County there is in fact a vast array of programs designed to ease the problems associated with transiency/homelessness. From food, clothing, money, bus passes, and even motel vouchers. There is help with medication, schooling, and even events for children to escape the disaster at home (whatever that might be). More than enough good people are willing to help in any material way.

However, there is a problem in the "motel system" that is very rarely addressed, and that is chemical abuse. Drugs and alcohol use play such a tremendous role in these types of situations. The situations are ugly, and therefore people try not to look. The situations involve family, and are touchy, deemed off limits. People on the outside tend to look down on the motel dwellers, as drug abusers, prostitutes, criminals, and general losers. The people on the outside who actually give a damn, do the exact opposite and try very hard to NOT judge while helping as best they can. I understand the good intentions of charities and organizations, but this is a problem that I see that needs the most attention. How do children raised by alcoholics and drug addicts turn out? When there is constant turmoil in the household, it is hard to be a normal child. When parents are concerned about their alcohol to the point of disregarding a child's upbringing, this is unacceptable. Drug and alcohol abuse by parents does affect children's prospects, schooling, friend making, figuring out how life works, are affected. Depression, deviancy, drop outs, fights, alcoholism, addiction, prostitution, all products of crap home and family environments.

It is my opinion that an overhaul of law enforcement is in order. The actual "enforcement" of the law is extremely lacking, as I've seen over my few years here. A bloodied woman in an emergency room has two kids at home, but staff's more concerned about her warrant. Drugs found in a room? All's well, as the cop's a friendly guy. Both parents convicted of DUI? No problem, as long as the 45 days are served, kids be damned... There really needs to be some oversight, some forethought in figuring out how alcoholism/drug addiction destroys families (especially children), and keeps the cycle going.

I'm a bit bitter, but I'm lucky. I'm out, everything's hunky dory, but a lot of crap shouldn't have happened, and wouldn't have happened if more people paid attention to these types of problems.

There are truly helpless people, and help needs to go their way, but there are equally helpless children at the mercy of unfit parents. Their voices aren't loud enough, but the signs are there for those to see.


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28 Dec 2008, 9:30 pm

Reno has 50 old motels from the days of US Highway 40, a huge transient population due to the continuous churning of casino workers and the mistaken belief that anybody can find work in Reno, and a massive methamphetamine problem. The result is one of the worst cauldrons of human suffering I'm aware of in the USA outside of Indian reservations and some inner cities. There's constant stories in the Reno Gazette Journal ( http://www.rgj.com/ ) about motel dwellers in trouble. On Christmas Eve a couple of drunks were found in a filthy room with a 3 year old kid. Moldy food, beer bottles everywhere, the whole bit. The kid was taken away and the parents taken to Parr (the county jail).

Then there was the meth freaks pimping out a 15 year old for tweek. She eventually broke free and ran, stark naked, into the street, after which her parents ended up in Parr. She had virtually no education because of the tramp life, she couldn't hardly read or write. One woman was pimping out a 12 year old, well sort of, the girl would make a deal them mom would knock the john on the noggin and take his wallet. They were living in a motel.

Then there's Tent City, which became nationally infamous over the summer. Reno has an 8% unemployment rate officially, yet they still come. Tent City was replaced by Tarp City, there's a photo of it on the crime blog, shrouded in snow. Reno nights have gotten down into the single digits, cold enough to freeze water bottles solid, but nobody has died-yet. It's horrible. Most tramps-voluntary homeless-head to the Imperial Valley in the winter, where they at least won't freeze solid. But increasing numbers are taking their chances in the snow, hoping somehow to find work.



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28 Dec 2008, 10:47 pm

Many Celebrities are philanthropists.
Don't ask me HOW MANY, but I know which city is the most philanthropic.
For example, Brad Pitt rebuilt very many more houses in New Orleans than the USA Gov did.

There is a reason why.
The gov required bricks of paperwork to apply for the funding.
Brad Pitt donated a lot of money to Habitat for Humanity which has experts in doing all that paperwork AND building houses.

So, if you are homeless in the USA, who do you want to build you a house?
Brad Pitt, or the Gov after they take away all his extra money?

BTW:Philanthropic means "lover of humanity" in Greek but is generally describes rich people that give a lot to charity organizations, and establish them for needy causes.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6031025&page=1



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28 Dec 2008, 11:38 pm

Those are some terrible conditions in Reno, pezar.


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29 Dec 2008, 2:07 pm

Well, my parents are rich, and I'm a chronic welfare recipient. So I may be a bit biased here. :wink: But it's my impression that money makes people greedy and unwilling to share. Birth rates drop when family income goes up, and reserchers think it's because people want to hoard their savings more when they have more; keep their wealth intact. So we have a situation where the well-off bash the poor in order to get out of helping them.

On the other hand, a lot of well-off people simply have no idea how badly off others are. Welfare rates where I am are not enough to cover basic expenses, but good people have a hard time understanding that governments do this on purpose and that it has to stop - they assume that the government would never do anything that bad, so it mustn't be as bad as it looks. And nothing changes. :(

And then you get the few people who are ridiculously rich, who have a hard time figuring out how to give it all away. I think their money is better invested in emergencies and one-offs while taxpayers money goes to cover the everyday costs that aren't being met.