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08 Jan 2009, 6:17 pm

What is the difference between NLD and AS? According to the Wikipedia article 80% of those dx with AS meet the criteria for NLD. So, what is the difference between the two? Do people that meet the criteria for both get a dx for both?

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08 Jan 2009, 8:36 pm

buryuntime wrote:
What is the difference between NLD and AS? According to the Wikipedia article 80% of those dx with AS meet the criteria for NLD. So, what is the difference between the two? Do people that meet the criteria for both get a dx for both?

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Have a look here:

http://www.nldline.com/as_vs_nld.htm

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09 Jan 2009, 6:35 am

buryuntime wrote:
What is the difference between NLD and AS? According to the Wikipedia article 80% of those dx with AS meet the criteria for NLD. So, what is the difference between the two? Do people that meet the criteria for both get a dx for both?

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Simply put, NLD crave socialization while AS just wants to be left alone. Other then that, the two disorders have the some of the same characteristic.



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09 Jan 2009, 8:08 am

Aspie4u wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
What is the difference between NLD and AS? According to the Wikipedia article 80% of those dx with AS meet the criteria for NLD. So, what is the difference between the two? Do people that meet the criteria for both get a dx for both?

Thannnnks.


Simply put, NLD crave socialization while AS just wants to be left alone. Other then that, the two disorders have the some of the same characteristic.

I have NLD and I totally agree with this. I do like my alone time every now and again, but if I'm around people, I absolutely hate being left out, so I join right in.

I'm not sure about this, but I think there's less stimming involved with NLD, too. At least I know I don't stim. I'm also a very visual person and it's harder to learn any other way and my math skills suck. However, my grammar has always been excellent and I started reading when I was two.



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09 Jan 2009, 9:02 am

Aspie4u wrote:
... while AS just wants to be left alone.


This goes against allmost everything that I read and heard about AS.



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09 Jan 2009, 10:33 am

TPE2 wrote:
Aspie4u wrote:
... while AS just wants to be left alone.


This goes against allmost everything that I read and heard about AS.


Indeed.

DSM-IV-TR wrote:
Older individuals may have an interest in friendship but lack understanding of the conventions of social interaction.

DSM-IV-TR wrote:
Although the social deficit in Asperger's Disorder is severe and is defined in the same way as in Autistic Disorder, the lack of social reciprocity is more typically manifest by an eccentric and one-sided social approach to others (e.g., pursuing a conversational topic regardless of others' reactions) rather than social and emotional indifference.



Yes - you could get diagnosed with both because NLD is not an officially and internationally recognised diagnosis.


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09 Jan 2009, 11:47 am

What I've seen mentioned several times in various articles is differentiation based on the presence or absence of a special interest. But then, I've also read NLD case studies and books where the kid clearly has a special interest. So it's not very consistent.

Check out the first post in the NLD sticky thread:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt84443.html

There is a paragraph on the relationship between NLD and AS.


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09 Jan 2009, 12:12 pm

It's usually young children with AS who appear uninterested in people (preschool and under). Elementary/primary school onwards is when the individual with AS starts to show his or her social impairment as they begin getting interested in people; they're usually ok with family members before then.

The biggest difference is a lack of empathy and more hyper-focusing on whatever the individual is interested in with AS; the former equates to more problems with human relatedness and social/emotional reciprocity, and the latter can lead to lagging behind peers across the board due to only obsessing over that one thing.



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09 Jan 2009, 1:11 pm

I had heard I had NLD, but after reading the article posted above, I think AS is more accurate to myself. I definitely have strong interests and am a good visual learner as well. Thanks to all the above people for helping me find this out. :)



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09 Jan 2009, 10:55 pm

TPE2 wrote:
Aspie4u wrote:
... while AS just wants to be left alone.


This goes against allmost everything that I read and heard about AS.
I'm diagnosed AS and I've been through hardcore depression over not having any1 I felt close to.



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10 Jan 2009, 11:18 am

"NLD profile are also reported to exhibit well developed rote verbal capacities and verbal memory skills, difficulty in adapting to novel and complex situations and overreliance on rote behaviors in such situations, relative deficits in mechanical arithmetic as compared to proficiencies in single word reading, poor pragmatics and prosody in speech, and significant deficits in social perception, social judgment, and social interaction skills. There are marked deficits in the appreciation of subtle and even fairly obvious nonverbal aspects of communication, which often result in social disdain and rejection by others. As a result, individuals with NLD exhibit a marked tendency toward social withdrawal and are at risk for development of serious mood disorders. Many of the clinical features clustered together in NLD have also been described in the neurological literature as a form of Developmental Learning Disability of the Right Hemisphere (Denckla, 1983; Weintraub & Mesulam, 1983). Children presenting with this condition have also been shown to exhibit profound disturbances in interpretation and expression of affect and other basic interpersonal skills (Voeller, 1986). A familial link has also been suggested (Weintraub & Mesulam, 1983). "

And you can get it from this link. [url= http://www.maapservices.org/Publication ... rticle.asp



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29 Oct 2014, 6:17 am

I think that NLD is not just a learning disorder. Why just not name it as a PDD and a type of autism ("classic" autism is not the only form of it for me). I like visual stimuli (such as maps and colors), but have not technical talents. I like writing. I do not like fiction literature so much and have many special interests (strong, atypical, often not so practical, somewhat narrow and repetitive). I do not like complex situations, projects on the studies are complicated.

I have large problems with nonverbal communication. I may can not express some emotions. I appear to have SCT also. I am not so interested in being loved, my social needs are (I do not remember from when) resticted and somewhat idiosyncratic. I think that I have mild pervasive developmental disorder ("nerd syndrome), a sort of Asperger's, not "classic" autism or "nonverbal learning disability".



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06 Nov 2014, 3:13 am

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