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11 Jan 2009, 1:38 am

every nite when i try to go to sleep i get anxiety about how i wont be able to fall asleep, and the more i worry, the later i stay up, and the later it gets the more i worry.... its a big circle, around and around. and before i know it, its 6am, and i still havent fallen asleep yet and im yawning and exausted and i still cant fall asleep. and ironically, the the nites that i dont care about what time i fall asleep, are the ones that i fall asleep because i dont get anxiety. and im not really interested in drugging myself with medications from some doctor. and this is especially annoying because now i have college in the mornings and i keep on falling asleep during class. anybody have any suggestions?



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11 Jan 2009, 2:18 am

Political books; I found VI Lenin very helpful...;)

No one can stay awake forever. It's like a lot of things; don't worry, just relax, close your eyes, and don't drink caffeinated beverage close to bedtime...works for me.



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11 Jan 2009, 4:23 am

For me it helps to keep a schedule. To sleep early. During weekdays I always sleep before 23:00.

Sometimes it helps to have a long evening walk (30 minutes minimum).

And a extra blanket can help with me (more warm and comfortable).



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11 Jan 2009, 4:25 am

get big book lay down to bed lift it above u and read...now dont just drop it .....


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11 Jan 2009, 7:46 am

Try cutting out dairy, ( butter, milk, yoghurt, cheese, and all products with lactose and milk proteins in ). I find that dairy sets my brain going non-stop, like a dynamo has taken over my thoughts.

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11 Jan 2009, 8:49 am

try listening to this: download from rapidshare

it doesn't work on me but maybe it'll help you.


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11 Jan 2009, 12:54 pm

Well I use melatonin sometimes but if you count that as a drug that is out.

Everynight I go to sleep mentally designing Dungeon Keeper 2 dungeons. Perhaps mentally going over details of one of your special interests. It is pleasant and it may help you relax.



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11 Jan 2009, 2:25 pm

My advice is

Exclude all light from your room, get very dark blinds and/or drapes.

Make sure that you are exposed to no sound, if you live with other people that can be hard. If you have soft surfaces on as many parts of the house it will tend to lower the noise level.

Do not read anything exciting just before going to bed.

Keep the same 24 hour cycle all week, do not change your cycle at weekends.

Stop drinking alcohol.

Never drink anything like tea, coffee or coke in the evening.

It helps some people to get some exercise, if you are a strapping lad in a low crime area you might feel OK about going running late at night. But if you a young lady or a man in a high crime area, then consider what you can do in the safety of your own house.

If you have a dog or cat, think should it be allowed to stay in your bed room at night.


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11 Jan 2009, 4:30 pm

I would try melatonin. I'd look into it if I were you.

I also find it easier for me to sleep if I'm on a couch with lots of blankets. It's more comfortable for me that way. Maybe weighted or extra blankets might help?



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11 Jan 2009, 5:54 pm

buryuntime wrote:
I would try melatonin. I'd look into it if I were you.

I also find it easier for me to sleep if I'm on a couch with lots of blankets. It's more comfortable for me that way. Maybe weighted or extra blankets might help?


I've tried melatonin, even if i take 2 of the biggest doses it doesn't work....



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11 Jan 2009, 6:16 pm

Hmm, I don't know if you have extreme sensitivity to noise or not, but I do and it caused problems similar to yours. I picked up some custom ear plugs (don't use the over the counter ones) from an ear specialist this summer and have been sleeping soundly ever since.


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11 Jan 2009, 8:48 pm

I have trouble with this all the time.

I have tried -- with various degrees of success:

5HTP -- modified tryptophan that sometimes helps me relax

Calms Forte -- homeopathic remedy that sometimes helps me relax

Benadryl Severe Allergy and Sinus Headache -- it's a drug, yes, but it really helps, plus, I have allergies to various things, and I'm prone to sinus problems and vestibular issues from swollen eardrums, so that helps with that, too

Guided imagery from Belleruth Naperstek (www.healthjourneys.com) -- Restful Sleep and General Wellness and Stress Relief -- also really good for anxiety -- I'm NOT a big guided meditation fan, but something about her imagery really helps me. She's got all sorts of documentation and research at her site to explain how/why -- fascinating

Closing my eyes and doing REM-sleep-like eye movements -- this seems to "trick" my body into thinking it's sleepy

Opening my eyes for a count of 20, closing them for a count of 20, opening them, closing them... forcing my eyes to stay open, even when they are heavy... until I can't keep them open anymore.

Progressive relaxation -- relax your body, part by part, from toes to head, and see what happens

Do not drink anything less than 2 hours before going to bed

Exercise early in the day. Wear myself out. Make it impossible to stay awake after 10 p.m.

When all else fails, there's always sex. That seems to be the most effective one of all. Some people are woken up by the rush. Others are relaxed by it. All by yourself? Self-love is always an option. And no one ever needs to know. But your grades may improve ;)

Good luck

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12 Jan 2009, 12:26 pm

that happens to me too i always get like 3 hous sleep when i need it but 15 hours when i dont god dam anxiety



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12 Jan 2009, 3:37 pm

i have the same problem and so does a friend, well ex-friend.

my friend is a bit of an alcoholic and he just gets drunk til he passes out. i've tried a little wine before i go to bed and it sometimes works. but i don't like alcohol.

i've found just making myself go to bed early - like around 7:30pm - is better than staying up late hoping i'll get exhausted and able to sleep. so when i go to bed around 7:30 i may toss and turn til midnight. if it's imperative that i get a good nite sleep, i will then get up and take a couple aspirin and if i'm not asleep in 15 minutes, i get up and take 2 more. it always makes me go to sleep unless my body is in a lot of pain, in which case sometimes 5 or 6 aspirins is necessary.

i try to take aspirin only when i'm desperate for a good nite's sleep and so far it has always worked. remember that even if you don't sleep, resting is good too. staying up late or drinking caffeine within a few hours of sleep, are the worst things you can do.

one more thing. i like math and doing calculations in my head. whenever i've done that after going to bed, it's better than counting sheep, and within 20 minutes of staring at numbers in my head, i'm dozing off...