What would an Aspie role model be like for you?

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04 Feb 2009, 12:35 pm

What would an Aspie be like for you to want to have them as a role model? I mean role model in the sense of wanting to go in a similar direction to theirs, achieve similar achievements as theirs, have similar values, experiences, whatever. Someone you'd look up to and agree with the way they've handled their lives with AS.

(If someone understood the question and can explain what I mean in clearer English, please do. I find that instinctively sometimes people rephrase my posts and they do it wonderfully. I'd really want for people to understand the question.)


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04 Feb 2009, 12:55 pm

There is an aspie boy at school who is like a role model sort of thing. because despite everything he is very extraverted and sociable and doesn't give a flying F what people think he just loves being himself and he has lots of friends.


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04 Feb 2009, 1:14 pm

Greentea wrote:
What would an Aspie be like for you to want to have them as a role model? I mean role model in the sense of wanting to go in a similar direction to theirs, achieve similar achievements as theirs, have similar values, experiences, whatever. Someone you'd look up to and agree with the way they've handled their lives with AS.

(If someone understood the question and can explain what I mean in clearer English, please do. I find that instinctively sometimes people rephrase my posts and they do it wonderfully. I'd really want for people to understand the question.)


i'll give it a try, Greentea...

Given that one is an Aspie=HFA, who would one like to be like;
on the proviso that said model be considered aspie alike


EG: possibilities abound:

RealLife examples:
-family&friends (no details required);
-reknowned AS/HFA (TempleGrandin, so many others)

UnrealLife examples: any from the world of culture

me, i would not mind being Gregory House knowing of my autism,
i would gladly suffer his physique for that as well,
although i have hardly a single physical 'symptom'
and being House MD would actually constitute a downgrade

Virtual examples: compile your own model: ie:
what do you need to become like you want to be seen by yourself

i think i ought to choose the virtual approach in my case and become ME
however: sadly... other priorities right now...

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04 Feb 2009, 2:13 pm

For me a role model would have to:

1. function in society
2....but on their own terms
3. ...without being a savant.


Savant's aren't helpful role-models for the rest of us who can't calculate prime factors in seconds. It would help if they were successful in some field though. The more socially adept they were the less I would be able to see them as a model for me.



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04 Feb 2009, 2:21 pm

skybluepink, I think my role model would be the same as yours. I agree an Aspie with "superpowers" couldn't be someone I could identify with. And someone functioning in society while being themselves would be it.


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04 Feb 2009, 2:23 pm

Someone who is able to hold down a job and be be to take care of themselves and be independent and they don't have to get extra help.
Getting married and having kids and being great parents

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doesn't give a flying F what people think he just loves being himself and he has lots of friends.



Does he get made fun of or insulted? If so, maybe he isn't even aware of it so it might seem like he doesn't care because he isn't aware of the bullying? It's a good characteristic to have.



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04 Feb 2009, 3:50 pm

Skybluepink, I wholeheartedly agree with #1 and #2. I would not, however, blanked exclude Aspies with savant abilities - for many, these abilities are essential to survival.

I would believe that any person who uses every ability at their disposal to be productive citizens, with an attitude of using those abilities to overcome difficulties, rather than giving up, should at least be considered.

Just because people have savant abilities doesn't mean they have an easier time of things. They often come bundled with other issues that are beyond the experience or even comprehension even of most autistic people.

At the end of the day, attitude and perseverance will win the day for me.



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04 Feb 2009, 4:17 pm

I can't imagine looking up to an Aspie as a role model. I mean what I admire in others are NT qualities. To me Aspies are losers. I admire good social skills, friendliness, ability to make friends easily, someone who acquires jobs easily and work the same job for years, has a longterm relationship, children, is a good parent and doesn't abuse the kids nor the spouse.



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04 Feb 2009, 4:24 pm

I have totally, totally, utterly, given up on having "Normal People" as role models. What I am looking at now is people like:

- People who have managed to work around and with: neurological/psych/emotional conditions incl AS, autism, schizophrenia, anorexia, depression, etc and managed to find peace.

- People on shows like "The Biggest Loser" who managed to change their lives

- The dog. She does whatever she likes and gets away with it.



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04 Feb 2009, 4:29 pm

Somebody who changed peoples opinion of what autistic people can be like - so, probably not a savant tbh. Maybe someone who was succesful in a field that wasn't stereotypically connected to autism.



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04 Feb 2009, 5:03 pm

neutrality.


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04 Feb 2009, 5:34 pm

pavel_filonov wrote:
Somebody who changed peoples opinion of what autistic people can be like - so, probably not a savant tbh. Maybe someone who was succesful in a field that wasn't stereotypically connected to autism.


that, indeed, would be me, to a T


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04 Feb 2009, 5:45 pm

I want to be an aspie role model!
I WILL BE an aspie role model, I have desided, so there meh *sticks out tongue* hehehe



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04 Feb 2009, 5:45 pm

Kramer without the n-bombs.


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04 Feb 2009, 5:48 pm

Overcome their challenges but still show major autistic traits.



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04 Feb 2009, 6:35 pm

I think for me, being one of those folks with aspie and NT traits, I would look for a role model who's in that same space as me. Not necessarily an aspie. But certainly someone with enough of those traits, and the right ones, that I an identify with them.

One person's been a role model for me in dealing with emotional stuff. Someone who deals with emotional stuff easily wouldn't be a role model. I think he's a role model because he's had to learn, and because he's verbal about that stuff. (He's a musician, so gets to share stuff about himself when he wants to.) Like me enough to be an example of what I can be.