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10 Jan 2013, 4:46 pm

I'm not sure why but I have a hard time knowing if I contact people too much. I'm not really a social person. I'm definitely introverted and I spend most of my time alone (happily so) but sometimes I get really attached to people (especially intelligent people who are a bit older than I am). And when I do I sort of want to talk to them a lot. I want to discuss things and I want to have deep interesting conversations about astronomy or psychology or whatever interest I have at the time. If people then don't clearly tell me that I'm contacting them too much I have a tendency to talk to them a lot. Not every day. When I'm in one of those periods where I'm attached to someone I think I probably contact them once or twice a week (sometimes even less than that). Anyway, it seems like I either contact them too often (more often online than actually meeting up by the way) or talk too much about my interests. It seems like it gets too much for them so they gradually distance themselves from me. I've lost "friends" that way (I'm not sure how to define a friendship, hence the quotation marks).

I'm not really sure where the limits are and it all just confuses me. It makes me really anxious sometimes and I'm afraid of being a burden to people. Because I, for some reason, have lost "friends" this way I sort of think something's wrong as soon as the person I want to talk to don't talk to me in a while. It's really annoying. Am I doing something wrong? How do I know if I talk to someone more often than they want to talk to me if they don't tell me so? Like I said, I'm very introverted so I don't really socialise too much but every once in a while I just get very attached to people and I want their attention. Is that weird? Could someone please explain this to me?

It feels like this text is a bit messy and incoherent. My apologies.



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10 Jan 2013, 4:56 pm

I have the same sort of troubles.... but the only solution I could find was to level with them up front.
Tell them straight that if you're ever making them feel uncomfortable, that they have to tell you so clearly and directly... and make sure they understand. Mundies have trouble with literalness sometimes.



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10 Jan 2013, 4:57 pm

People form new relationships and break them all the time, NTs usually more easily than us apparently. I think NTs are just less serious about it, so there's less turmoil.



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10 Jan 2013, 4:59 pm

TheValk wrote:
People form new relationships and break them all the time, NTs usually more easily than us apparently. I think NTs are just less serious about it, so there's less turmoil.

Friendship is more disposable to them because they can just get more whenever they want it... pretty much. It is only serious when they want it to be serious.



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10 Jan 2013, 5:02 pm

rebbieh wrote:
I'm not sure why but I have a hard time knowing if I contact people too much. I'm not really a social person. I'm definitely introverted and I spend most of my time alone (happily so) but sometimes I get really attached to people (especially intelligent people who are a bit older than I am). And when I do I sort of want to talk to them a lot. I want to discuss things and I want to have deep interesting conversations about astronomy or psychology or whatever interest I have at the time. If people then don't clearly tell me that I'm contacting them too much I have a tendency to talk to them a lot. Not every day. When I'm in one of those periods where I'm attached to someone I think I probably contact them once or twice a week (sometimes even less than that). Anyway, it seems like I either contact them too often (more often online than actually meeting up by the way) or talk too much about my interests. It seems like it gets too much for them so they gradually distance themselves from me. I've lost "friends" that way (I'm not sure how to define a friendship, hence the quotation marks).

I'm not really sure where the limits are and it all just confuses me. It makes me really anxious sometimes and I'm afraid of being a burden to people. Because I, for some reason, have lost "friends" this way I sort of think something's wrong as soon as the person I want to talk to don't talk to me in a while. It's really annoying. Am I doing something wrong? How do I know if I talk to someone more often than they want to talk to me if they don't tell me so? Like I said, I'm very introverted so I don't really socialise too much but every once in a while I just get very attached to people and I want their attention. Is that weird? Could someone please explain this to me?

It feels like this text is a bit messy and incoherent. My apologies.


Hey no problem and I followed your post just fine =) and I agree with what you said in bold. I don't like conversations much because they all seem to deal with interpersonal issues / popular culture references and nothing with substance or information. This is one of the reasons I do not have any friends in real life or even anyone I talk to online. I can't relate to any of it. I can talk on here because I can relate to autistic people but as far as having contact outside of what I know seems almost impossible. I, as you do, have trouble knowing how to form relationships and keep relationships. I often forget to maintain friendships, am to picky, get bored of people, get paranoid of people.



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10 Jan 2013, 5:40 pm

I have had this too. i would talk for a long while over my favourite subjects and would try to avoid small talk. I enjoy talking with other aspies or even intreasted non-aspies (should i call them normals?) in a discussion. usually i will listen to any intellectual lecture so long as i can put points in.

What i try to do is get a little debate going.this way the other person is involved strongly rather than you just lectureing. i had gone with a friend to see her horses once and got in a debate over the orgin of the universe in mcdonalds. ended up ignoring her for a whole hour.


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10 Jan 2013, 7:10 pm

rebbieh wrote:
I'm not sure why but I have a hard time knowing if I contact people too much. I'm not really a social person. I'm definitely introverted and I spend most of my time alone (happily so) but sometimes I get really attached to people (especially intelligent people who are a bit older than I am). And when I do I sort of want to talk to them a lot. I want to discuss things and I want to have deep interesting conversations about astronomy or psychology or whatever interest I have at the time. If people then don't clearly tell me that I'm contacting them too much I have a tendency to talk to them a lot. Not every day. When I'm in one of those periods where I'm attached to someone I think I probably contact them once or twice a week (sometimes even less than that). Anyway, it seems like I either contact them too often (more often online than actually meeting up by the way) or talk too much about my interests. It seems like it gets too much for them so they gradually distance themselves from me. I've lost "friends" that way (I'm not sure how to define a friendship, hence the quotation marks).

I'm not really sure where the limits are and it all just confuses me. It makes me really anxious sometimes and I'm afraid of being a burden to people. Because I, for some reason, have lost "friends" this way I sort of think something's wrong as soon as the person I want to talk to don't talk to me in a while. It's really annoying. Am I doing something wrong? How do I know if I talk to someone more often than they want to talk to me if they don't tell me so? Like I said, I'm very introverted so I don't really socialise too much but every once in a while I just get very attached to people and I want their attention. Is that weird? Could someone please explain this to me?

It feels like this text is a bit messy and incoherent. My apologies.



Hi Rebbieh, understand you completely since i do the same thing.
This is happening now with me. I've made neighbor friends and i stop over once a day to say hi and talk with them. The last thing i want
is to annoy them, and am afraid i will miss signs.
I try not to stay there too long, kinda stop in for 5-20mins (varies). They are a cool group of folks, they have kids, and i really do feel comfy talking to them and know they aren't judgemental. They know i have a disabilities and HFA and accept that. Ironically they are my NT wife's friends from a decade ago (we moved here over a year ago) and i can't drag my NT over to hang out with them =p



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10 Jan 2013, 7:12 pm

Magnanimous wrote:
I have the same sort of troubles.... but the only solution I could find was to level with them up front.
Tell them straight that if you're ever making them feel uncomfortable, that they have to tell you so clearly and directly... and make sure they understand. Mundies have trouble with literalness sometimes.


This is probably the best thing i can say to them just in case. I like to be honest with people and to avoid other people having to do NT things like white lie, i will tell them to please bluntly tell me if i am getting annoying or if ever i am over at a bad time to tell me.



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11 Jan 2013, 12:23 am

Dreycrux wrote:
Hey no problem and I followed your post just fine =) and I agree with what you said in bold. I don't like conversations much because they all seem to deal with interpersonal issues / popular culture references and nothing with substance or information. This is one of the reasons I do not have any friends in real life or even anyone I talk to online. I can't relate to any of it. I can talk on here because I can relate to autistic people but as far as having contact outside of what I know seems almost impossible. I, as you do, have trouble knowing how to form relationships and keep relationships. I often forget to maintain friendships, am to picky, get bored of people, get paranoid of people.


This might sound weird but I've never really thought of it as me having problems maintaining relationships. If a psychologist/psychiatrist were to ask me if I have any problems keeping friends, should I say yes? I know some people stop talking to me but sometimes I'm not sure they're annoyed with me. I mean, maybe they're just super busy or something? How does one know?

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I like to be honest with people and to avoid other people having to do NT things like white lie, i will tell them to please bluntly tell me if i am getting annoying or if ever i am over at a bad time to tell me.


I tell people that sometimes. I tell them to please let me know if I'm annoying etc. There are two things I want to say about that:

1. Since I'm so worried and anxious about being a burden to people I sort of need people to reassure me I'm not bothering them. I think that might make me annoying. What do you think? It's not like I always ask for reassurance or anything. I probably think more about it than talking about it. But sometimes I ask anyway.

2. Even though I sometimes tell people to let me know if I'm a burden or annoying or something they still end up not talking to me (without saying anything). I don't understand it.



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11 Jan 2013, 1:14 am

rebbieh wrote:
This might sound weird but I've never really thought of it as me having problems maintaining relationships. If a psychologist/psychiatrist were to ask me if I have any problems keeping friends, should I say yes? I know some people stop talking to me but sometimes I'm not sure they're annoyed with me. I mean, maybe they're just super busy or something? How does one know?


Yeah I know that feeling, I'm not sure if they hate me, they are busy, annoyed. I think you should say yes if a psychologist/psychiatrist were to ask you because sounds like you have problems keeping friends. You obviously can't ask the person if your annoying them, that would be very awkward for them. I can't give you any advice because I have the same issues. I can only agree to you in this case.



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11 Jan 2013, 1:16 am

I sometimes feel like I'm doing the same thing with my best friend. She was the first person I asked about the possibility of me having AS. Since then, I text her nearly every day about something related to AS. (AS has been one of my "special interests" for the past year.)

I'm pretty sure I'm just way over-analyzing it, but I feel sometimes I'm bugging her because sometimes she doesn't respond at all to my texts or IMs. I understand that she may be busy, but I can't help but wonder if I'm annoying her or not.


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11 Jan 2013, 1:37 am

Dreycrux wrote:
Yeah I know that feeling, I'm not sure if they hate me, they are busy, annoyed. I think you should say yes if a psychologist/psychiatrist were to ask you because sounds like you have problems keeping friends. You obviously can't ask the person if your annoying them, that would be very awkward for them. I can't give you any advice because I have the same issues. I can only agree to you in this case.


Yeah, it's difficult. I wish people would just tell me what they think. I wish people would be clear, direct and state things. Do you know what I mean?

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I sometimes feel like I'm doing the same thing with my best friend. She was the first person I asked about the possibility of me having AS. Since then, I text her nearly every day about something related to AS. (AS has been one of my "special interests" for the past year.)

I'm pretty sure I'm just way over-analyzing it, but I feel sometimes I'm bugging her because sometimes she doesn't respond at all to my texts or IMs. I understand that she may be busy, but I can't help but wonder if I'm annoying her or not.


I did something similar during the spring last year. The person I emailed (who was a "friend" of mine and works as a psychologist) told me it was ok for me to ask her questions. So I did. I emailed her about twice a month or so (that was around the time AS was a real obsession of mine). Then she stopped talking to me and I haven't heard from her since July or so. I reckon she'd had enough of me which I think is weird because she kept telling me it was ok to email her. Still puzzles me.