Early loss of previously acquired abilities and CDC

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10 Feb 2009, 11:06 am

Probably a provocative question, but

are all those children who suddenly lose abilities autistic? Or is autism the same as CDC? If not, then why exactly do those kids labelled as classical regress as described in CDC?

If a child regresses at, say, 18 months... it's half a year that makes all the difference and gets those kids labelled as autistic and not as having CDC.

Isn't that just totally nuts?

The cause of CDC is unknown. Yet someone came up with that it cannot be CDC if a child isn't at least 24 months old.

No matter that the exact same regression can be seen earlier. That's like: Hey, we don't know what CDC is, but since we decided it can only happen beyond age 2, it can't be CDC causing your 15 or 20 month old to regress the way as described in CDC. Why?

We already know that it's just plain untrue that those with AS develop normally until age 3. That's what someone also randomly came up with once but what isn't true.

Deficits in social interaction and language development as well as sensory integration deficits, repetitive and stereotyped behaviours and mannerisms are usually all seen in those with AS well before age 3.

So why does nobody bother to check if those regressing kids aren't CDC?

Or we could just erase the category of CDC. Or merge it with ASDs. Anything like that?

Because this early regression in CDC vs. regression in classical seems quite mysterious to me!


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10 Feb 2009, 1:52 pm

Good questions. I recall a PDD conference last year where CDD was one of the topics addressed with regard to the upcoming DSM V:

http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Research/DSMIV/DSMV/DSMRevisionActivities/ConferenceSummaries/AutismConference.aspx

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The fourth panel addressed the question how does developmental regression (and particularly Childhood Disintegrative Disorder) fit into the autism spectrum? In her introduction, Sarah J. Spence, M.D., Ph.D., (Bethesda, MD) raised a number of questions about the construct of regression in ASD, including what is it and how commonly does it occur? Does regression represent true loss of skills versus just a plateau, and which skills should define a regression? Does it require normal development to precede it? When does it happen? What causes it? How important are medical factors? s it specific to ASDs? Regression is currently only included in the diagnostic criteria in Childhood Disintegrative Disorder (CDD), where it is required. Clinically it is commonly seen in Rett Syndrome but not included in the criteria, and is not even mentioned in Autistic Disorder, Asperger’s Disorder, or PDD-NOS, although it is known to occur fairly frequently. Childhood Disintegrative Disorder was first mentioned by Heller in 1908 and was first included in the DSM starting with DSM-IV. The available literature on CDD consists of case reports and a few case series. The paucity of reports is confirmation that CDD is a rare condition, with prevalence thought to be 1.1 to 6.4 per 100,000. It was once assumed that various presentations of CDD have a common medical etiopathogenesis, but a cause is not identified in most cases. Dr. Spence summarized some of the challenges in defining the role of regression in CDD and other ASDs as follows: 1) determining the validity of the age requirement (24 months-10 years); 2) operationalizing the definition of regression; 3) close examination of pathogenesis and clarification of the role of co-morbid medical diagnoses; and 4) determining its impact on prognosis and response to intervention. In his presentation, Hiroshi Kurita, M.D., (Tokyo, Japan) argued that although CDD is quite rare and research on CDD very scarce, there is no convincing evidence to abolish or merge it with autistic disorder, and that it should be preserved as an independent disorder. He made a number of specific suggestions to improve the CDD criteria set, including: 1) changing the requirement in criterion A for the regression history from “apparently normal development” to “no clinically significant delay or abnormality in development”; 2) deleting motor skills regression from the areas of regression in criterion B because of scarcity; and 3) in criterion D, having the diagnosis of CDD pre-empt a diagnosis of autistic disorder so that CDD with onset before age 3 is not diagnosed as autistic disorder (one-third to one-half of CDD patients show their regression between ages 2 and 3). Compared with autistic disorder, CDD has no significant difference in clinical symptomatology apart from its higher incidences of epilepsy and EEG abnormalities. Dr. Kurita concluded by noting that given the rarity of CDD, a standard format of evaluating a possible CDD case or a case with a history of regression is needed to facilitate early detection and research of CDD and other PDD with regression. Pauline A. Filipek, M.D., (Irvine, CA) showed prospective video clips of an infant aged 13 months through 26 months that illustrated apparently normal development at age 13 months, with gestures and 6 to 7 spontaneous words. One month later, he presented to the clinic with a loss of response to name, followed by loss of his 6 to 7 words, onset of highly repetitive play and loss of eye contact, which progressed to frank autistic disorder by age 24 months. This sequence raised questions about what separates autistic regression from CDD -- how often does regression occur in autistic disorder? Is CDD simply autistic regression that occurs later, after age 24 months? During the ensuing discussion, it was pointed out that regression may be a more common feature of autism than was previously thought with some prospective studies indicating that a loss of skills is the rule rather than the exception. In regressive autism, the skills are lost in the second year of life, while in “early onset” autism, skills are lost in the first year of life. There was general agreement that symptom onset is on a continuum between regression and non-regression and that defining the borders between the two can be difficult. Diagnostic certainty is particularly problematic because most parents are not going to pick up a regression of acquired skills unless the child has acquired language which then is lost.



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10 Feb 2009, 3:24 pm

Regression is not the only alternative to developing normally. I would guess that most on the autism spectrum develop at a delayed rate. For example, my son never developed normally. But he didn't regress either. He just walked later, talked later, did everything later than normal. Some things he might not catch on for years yet, or some things he might never get.

Where did you get the idea that most autistics regress? Sure there are setbacks whenever change occurs, maybe the kid starts wetting the bed again after switching schools. But this is not the regression described in CDC.



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10 Feb 2009, 5:45 pm

Why does everyone seem to want to use the Autism diagnosis as a kind of garbage can? Everyone wants to throw EVERYTHING into it!



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10 Feb 2009, 9:11 pm

Mage wrote:
Where did you get the idea that most autistics regress?


Many parents of autistic children report that their kids had begun to learn words before they regressed (maybe around age 1 or 1 and a half), or if it happened younger, that they had been friendly and social and made eye contact before suddenly becoming autistic. That is all considered regression. It is debatable though whether in all these cases the kids had been developing "normally," or whether the parents had just missed the early, subtle signs of autism. Although in cases where the kid lost language abilities, the regression is clear.

I worked with a girl who had had normal development up until age 5 before she began to lose language skills and other abilities. She could actually tell her mom what was going on- that she was having trouble remembering things, etc. When I worked with her at age 11, she was completely nonverbal, without even much success using alternative communication (most of the time unable to communicate basic wants and needs), basically couldn't do anything independently, and was about as severely autistic as you can get. Her label was just "autism" though, not CDD, although they wondered if maybe she had an atypical form of Rett Disorder. I think I would find that upsetting if she were my kid, and it must have been scary for her as well.


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10 Feb 2009, 9:24 pm

It would seem since the diagnostic criteria for autism includes

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(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:

(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play

(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder


Then it would seem like the girl you know was probably misdiagnosed as autistic. The age at which she developed symptoms completely rules out autism.

I have not heard that regression was very common among autistics, at least with regard to onset of symptoms. I do believe it's the minority of autistic children that would develop that way, and not the majority, at the very least. It could be that those who regress are experiencing a different variety of autism, or perhaps something that hasn't been named. I suppose if someone wasn't too busy they could make a poll asking if someone had always had their autistic symptoms, or if they developed normally and then regressed between age 1-3.



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10 Feb 2009, 9:48 pm

As it says in the text outlier posted:

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Compared with autistic disorder, CDD has no significant difference in clinical symptomatology apart from its higher incidences of epilepsy and EEG abnormalities.


Same symptoms, different age of onset (outside of regular and regressive autistic disorder).