A question for those who had speech delay

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Kajjie
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12 Feb 2009, 4:30 pm

When did you learn to talk? When did you learn to write/type?

I am curious about speech delay, and autie communication.



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12 Feb 2009, 4:41 pm

You will most likely not hear what the experts say you are supposed to hear. Speaking for myself I talked in complete sentences by 9 months and was walking and exploring on my own by 9 months. I taught myself how to read before I was 3 and was reading high school level books before kindergarten. On IQ tests I usually come in between 80 and 105 depending on the particular test so I am marginal compared to many of my friends. I hated school from day one as it was so boring and that started my downhill spiral into oblivion.


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12 Feb 2009, 4:49 pm

garyww wrote:
You will most likely not hear what the experts say you are supposed to hear. Speaking for myself I talked in complete sentences by 9 months and was walking and exploring on my own by 9 months. I taught myself how to read before I was 3 and was reading high school level books before kindergarten. On IQ tests I usually come in between 80 and 105 depending on the particular test so I am marginal compared to many of my friends. I hated school from day one as it was so boring and that started my downhill spiral into oblivion.


My only knowlege of what the experts say is that a person with autism (rather than Asperger's Syndrome) learns to speak later than the normal age of learning to talk.



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12 Feb 2009, 4:54 pm

Don't believe everything you read. The experts for the most part are well meaning but really pretty stupid and lead incredibly sheltered lives to be considered experts to begin with.


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12 Feb 2009, 4:55 pm

Not necessarily. Many Aspies also fit diagnostic criteria for classic autism. I'd venture that the majority do, or at least did in childhood. It is possible to be diagnosed Autistic and talk on time, if your speech is unusual. The categories overlap dramatically.

So I guess the OP might have said, "those of you with a speech delay..." which will include some, but not all, the people diagnosed with classic autism.

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(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:

1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
Only one of those four is speech delay. If you have one of the other three, you meet that particular criterion. With Aspies, it'll often be number 2.


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12 Feb 2009, 4:59 pm

When I was 5. I was typing when I was 7. I was using a computer at that age and I had to type to get to programs.

I learned to write when I was six or seven. I could write my name and numbers when I was six and write my address. When I was seven, we had a school assignment in class every morning called board word. We had to copy a story from the chart and onto our paper.



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12 Feb 2009, 5:01 pm

I didn't know that callista - thanks for the info. I'll change the topic title. :)



12 Feb 2009, 5:02 pm

Callista wrote:
Not necessarily. Many Aspies also fit diagnostic criteria for classic autism. I'd venture that the majority do, or at least did in childhood. It is possible to be diagnosed Autistic and talk on time, if your speech is unusual. The categories overlap dramatically.

So I guess the OP might have said, "those of you with a speech delay..." which will include some, but not all, the people diagnosed with classic autism.

Check this out:

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(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:

1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
Only one of those four is speech delay. If you have one of the other three, you meet that particular criterion. With Aspies, it'll often be number 2.


I met that part in my early childhood. I probably met the autistic criteria when I was young. I'd say I met it all in that part from knowing how I was in my early childhood based on what I've read about me and what my mother told me so I can see why doctors would say I had it and my parents said I didn't. But the criteria was different then.



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12 Feb 2009, 5:11 pm

I didn't speak regularly until age four. I was very, very capable of it beforehand, but I'm the kind of person that doesn't want to try anything new until I know for a fact that I won't mess up.

When it came to speaking, all I did was go to a few speech classes. After that, I was speaking paragraphs at a time. So like I said, it was more of a reassurance thing with myself. I hate messing up and making a fool of myself. I really do. I remember clearly I was no different at that age. I wouldn't even dance in front of anyone else because I was so afraid of this.

Interesting enough, I was capable of reading at two. My mom said once when I was that age, we were leaving a restaurant and I pointed to one of those big trash bins that said "thank you" on the side and read it aloud.



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12 Feb 2009, 5:28 pm

I didn't speak at all until well after my fourth birthday. However, I could read and write my name.


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12 Feb 2009, 6:01 pm

I learned to talk at the same time as my one-year-younger brother, even though girls are supposed to be earlier talkers than boys. Mom says I was only a few words ahead of him all the way through. I probably learned to read at the same time since I was a fluent reader before my fifth birthday.

I did not learn to have conversations with give and take with strangers/acquaintances until my late teens/early twenties. People noticed a big difference over that period. Before that I only talked sociallly with people I'd known for years (immediate family, classmates, neighbours).



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12 Feb 2009, 6:07 pm

I didn't say my first word until I was 3, and didn't really talk fluently with anyone except my mom until I was 5. Between then when I was with my mom, I would grunt and point at the object I wanted and say it.


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12 Feb 2009, 6:29 pm

Started speaking at 4 1/2. Writing was a few years behind too.

As an example that I actually couldn't physically talk [rather than just not wanting to], when I was 2-3, my mother kept on trying to get me to say the features of my face; I was able to point to my nose if my mother said such, but I was unable to verbalize it when she pointed to hers and asked what it is. My receptive speech was ok, as I understood what was being said (pointing to my nose), but my expressive speech was behind.



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12 Feb 2009, 7:10 pm

I didn't speak at all until I was 3. I started speaking in complete sentences at that time. However, people had trouble understanding me due to differences in pronunciation. I was reading and writing by 4.


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12 Feb 2009, 8:00 pm

My mum said I didn't say my first words until 18 months. I have no idea how long it took me to learn words. When I was three I remember saying 'mum, mum! stripeys having kittens and she's eating them.' So, I guess by three I could speak in complete sentences.



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12 Feb 2009, 8:06 pm

I didn't say my first word until i was 3 1/2. I learned how to read and tell time before kindergarten.


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