Do you ever feel like people with Autism are treated better?

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Do you ever feel like people with Autism are better accepted than people with Asperger's?
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10 Mar 2009, 7:26 am

I don't know, but I suspect society "accepts" them more than how people with AS are regarded.

Mostly, full autistic people have an obvious issue. Society and polite behavior can deal with that.

People with AS largely can blend in with normal society, so our issues are viewed as a behavior issue and not something outside of that. So, we are not granted the same consideration that a full autistic person would receive. Society just doesn't understand the nature of our struggle because it's not as obvious.



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10 Mar 2009, 8:50 am

Emor wrote:
As in people are more understanding towards them?
If so, I personally do think so.
If it ever comes up in conversation, I say I have Autism or am semi-Autistic. I know I'm not, but Autism is more widely recognized if you ask me, and they're very similar.
Some people who I talk to a lot I just say I have Aspergers and give them a Wikipedia link(and offline just say it's similar to Autism).
In terms of people who actually know what they're talking about, I don't think there's a big difference(I go to a social group with both Autistic people Aspergers people, and they seem to get equal recognition by support workers and such).
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If you have Asperger's and you say you are autistic then this is actually correct as Asperger's is a form of autism.

Just thought I'd let you know :)

As for the original question, I think it's true to a certain extent just because autism is more well-known, but it depends on that sort of autism you're on about (HFA, LFA???) because it varys largely.



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10 Mar 2009, 10:32 am

DeLoreanDude wrote:
Emor wrote:
As in people are more understanding towards them?
If so, I personally do think so.
If it ever comes up in conversation, I say I have Autism or am semi-Autistic. I know I'm not, but Autism is more widely recognized if you ask me, and they're very similar.
Some people who I talk to a lot I just say I have Aspergers and give them a Wikipedia link(and offline just say it's similar to Autism).
In terms of people who actually know what they're talking about, I don't think there's a big difference(I go to a social group with both Autistic people Aspergers people, and they seem to get equal recognition by support workers and such).
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If you have Asperger's and you say you are autistic then this is actually correct as Asperger's is a form of autism.


And this is why I just say I am autistic...



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10 Mar 2009, 11:14 am

I'm not sure. On the one hand, low-functioning autistic people are looked down on and excluded even more (as one post said above, they're not expected to be part of society). On the other hand, less is expected of them. If someone is very obviously autistic, people will tend to accept their behavior, whereas if they appear to be reasonably 'normal', people seem to think that they're just not trying hard enough; that they're deliberately being awkward on purpose, and become angry and impatient with them. Your disability is invisible: people won't believe something exists if they can't see it.



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10 Mar 2009, 12:48 pm

I'm not really sure. There are a lot of people who are patronizing or downright cruel to LFAs but at the same time, there are people who don't believe asperger's exists. They think we're making it up, like it's some conspiracy that weird people with no friends made up (yeah, we all got together with our magical lack of social skills and concocted a brilliant plan... :roll: ) so we wouldn't have to fit in.

I've never personally met anyone else on the spectrum that was officially diagnosed, so I have nothing to go on but my own experiences. My own experience? People don't recognize asperger's. They think it's a conspiracy.



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10 Mar 2009, 1:46 pm

Yes. I've seen special ed teachers who are very nice to the students with full-blown autism, but they're just downright mean to me. It's happened plenty of times. Same with other students wanting to get a job teaching special ed students.

Ironically, however, my neighbor used to teach special ed and she's very nice to me. She treats me much more like a friend than just some girl next door. As far as I know, she doesn't suspect anything's wrong with me, so I'm fine with that. 8)



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10 Mar 2009, 2:17 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
I don't know, but I suspect society "accepts" them more than how people with AS are regarded.

Mostly, full autistic people have an obvious issue. Society and polite behavior can deal with that.

People with AS largely can blend in with normal society, so our issues are viewed as a behavior issue and not something outside of that. So, we are not granted the same consideration that a full autistic person would receive. Society just doesn't understand the nature of our struggle because it's not as obvious.


Exactly. For example, when I got into an incident once in my band class, my band teacher thought I had a behavior problem and he threatened to kick me out of the band if I didn't stop.


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10 Mar 2009, 2:25 pm

MizLiz wrote:
I'm not really sure. There are a lot of people who are patronizing or downright cruel to LFAs but at the same time, there are people who don't believe asperger's exists. They think we're making it up, like it's some conspiracy that weird people with no friends made up (yeah, we all got together with our magical lack of social skills and concocted a brilliant plan... :roll: ) so we wouldn't have to fit in.

I've never personally met anyone else on the spectrum that was officially diagnosed, so I have nothing to go on but my own experiences. My own experience? People don't recognize asperger's. They think it's a conspiracy.


True. People with LFA get much more thought put into them because their case is so-called ''believeable'' in part because of their lack of desire to socialize, mental retardation, etc. Us on the other hand, we get thought of as weird and pushy when wanting to make friends (with a ton of skepticism- a lot of people don't believe in our diagnosis(es)) because I'm assuming that most of us want to fit in until we give up on fitting in. Neurotypicals will respond by teasing and bullying us and leaving us out. On the other hand, people with LFA just get left alone and said hi to (with compassion) from neurotypicals.


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10 Mar 2009, 2:25 pm

MizLiz wrote:
I'm not really sure. There are a lot of people who are patronizing or downright cruel to LFAs but at the same time, there are people who don't believe asperger's exists. They think we're making it up, like it's some conspiracy that weird people with no friends made up (yeah, we all got together with our magical lack of social skills and concocted a brilliant plan... :roll: ) so we wouldn't have to fit in.

I've never personally met anyone else on the spectrum that was officially diagnosed, so I have nothing to go on but my own experiences. My own experience? People don't recognize asperger's. They think it's a conspiracy.


True. People with LFA get much more thought put into them because their case is so-called ''believeable'' in part because of their lack of desire to socialize, mental retardation, etc. Us on the other hand, we get thought of as weird and pushy when wanting to make friends (with a ton of skepticism- a lot of people don't believe in our diagnosis(es)) because I'm assuming that most of us want to fit in until we give up on fitting in. Neurotypicals will respond by teasing and bullying us and leaving us alone. On the other hand, people with LFA just get left alone and said hi to (with compassion) from neurotypicals.


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10 Mar 2009, 2:26 pm

MizLiz wrote:
I'm not really sure. There are a lot of people who are patronizing or downright cruel to LFAs but at the same time, there are people who don't believe asperger's exists. They think we're making it up, like it's some conspiracy that weird people with no friends made up (yeah, we all got together with our magical lack of social skills and concocted a brilliant plan... :roll: ) so we wouldn't have to fit in.

I've never personally met anyone else on the spectrum that was officially diagnosed, so I have nothing to go on but my own experiences. My own experience? People don't recognize asperger's. They think it's a conspiracy.


True. People with LFA get much more thought put into them because their case is so-called ''believeable'' in part because of their lack of desire to socialize, mental retardation, etc. Us on the other hand, we get thought of as weird and pushy when wanting to make friends (with a ton of skepticism- a lot of people don't believe in our diagnosis(es)) because I'm assuming that most of us want to fit in until we give up on fitting in. Neurotypicals will respond by teasing and bullying us and leaving us alone. On the other hand, people with LFA just get left alone and said hi to (with compassion) from neurotypicals.


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10 Mar 2009, 2:59 pm

I think LFAs get treated better in general for one reason. They have more 'complex needs' and therefore the council will pay more for them to go to specialist schools/colleges. I know this because it is happening where I am and I get treated like I am supposed to be 'normal' but the LFAs get treated nicely. really pisses me off.


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10 Mar 2009, 3:07 pm

Jellybean wrote:
I think LFAs get treated better in general for one reason. They have more 'complex needs' and therefore the council will pay more for them to go to specialist schools/colleges. I know this because it is happening where I am and I get treated like I am supposed to be 'normal' but the LFAs get treated nicely. really pisses me off.


The one thing I hate about AS is that people expect me to be normal, and they just think that I can be like everyone else and give me such explanations and have me live by them, and it bothers me. Where I am, the help I get the most is from my school's disability office, and they treat me like a human, but also like someone who has different needs, and do everything they can to meet my needs.