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Your opinion?
There is at least 1 global symptom 66%  66%  [ 23 ]
Open view 34%  34%  [ 12 ]
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10 Feb 2009, 10:18 am

I'd like to hear your personal opinion.

Do you think there is at least one symptom that 100% of autistic people in the world have in common, or do you share the more open view that person A is autistic because he has monotone voice, person B is autistic because he has many obsessions, person C is autistic becase he can't make eye contact, and they are all autistic even when they have zero symptoms in common?


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10 Feb 2009, 10:20 am

Um... without gathering every autistic person in the world together and asking them... I don't really know, however I do believe that maybe there is one thing we all have, but I wasn't too sure so I stayed open!


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10 Feb 2009, 10:34 am

yes,the triad of impairments have to be seen in all experiences of ASD to be diagnoseable,so in that way some things are the same for everyone,but the national autistic society say that no two people on the spectrum are ever alike [the NAS being an organisation that was founded by the same person who founded the triad of impairments/Lorna Wing].


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10 Feb 2009, 11:35 am

Yes, there are certain factors that are in all of us.


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10 Feb 2009, 11:45 am

Today, ASD should be diagnosed per the symptoms listed in the DSM. In the future, they'll probably break the diagnosis into smaller categories based on causes rather than symptoms. When this is done, you'll see a larger list of possible symptoms with each individual cause.



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10 Feb 2009, 1:18 pm

Well yes, of course.

If you're not:
1. Impared with regards to social function
2. Having qualitative language difficulties
3. Following restrictive, repetitive behaviors and patterns
then you're not on the spectrum.



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10 Feb 2009, 9:18 pm

None of those symptoms in isolation necessarily mean autism. There are multiple reasons for a monotone voice, just as there are multiple reasons for problems with eye contact. And plenty of NTs have intense interests. As has been pointed out before, autistic traits are just extreme versions of traits found among NTs. You have to have a combination of autistic traits at a certain level of severity before you have autism.

So, I agree with those who have posted above me. There are multiple traits that all autistics have in common.


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10 Feb 2009, 10:23 pm

i know this is probably not what you were asking as this is a personality trait and not measurable as such, but i have noticed that most AS have a strong sense of justice and fair play over and above that of any NT. Sometimes to the extreme that injustice and unfairness can cause great discomfort.


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11 Feb 2009, 12:22 am

There are a lot of symptoms.



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11 Feb 2009, 12:38 am

Quote:
Well yes, of course.

If you're not:
1. Impared with regards to social function
2. Having qualitative language difficulties
3. Following restrictive, repetitive behaviors and patterns
then you're not on the spectrum.


This is really good!



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11 Feb 2009, 12:41 am

Not being capable of conforming to what society (the powers that be) dictate or mindlessly follow the heard and act and do as you are told regardless of the price you pay for not doing so.



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11 Feb 2009, 9:58 am

Aufgehen wrote:
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Well yes, of course.

If you're not:
1. Impared with regards to social function
2. Having qualitative language difficulties
3. Following restrictive, repetitive behaviors and patterns
then you're not on the spectrum.


This is really good!


Aw shucks, thanks! But I just copied it from the DSM-IV.



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11 Feb 2009, 10:30 am

Quote:
Aufgehen wrote:
Quote:
Well yes, of course.

If you're not:
1. Impared with regards to social function
2. Having qualitative language difficulties
3. Following restrictive, repetitive behaviors and patterns
then you're not on the spectrum.


This is really good!


Aw shucks, thanks! But I just copied it from the DSM-IV.


:roll:

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11 Feb 2009, 11:09 am

yeh there are 3 factors that all aspergers have they have a special name like the tri...
but how much they have these factors and how it affects them will probs vary



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11 Feb 2009, 11:55 am

I understand your original post but keep in mind that two people may share an identical sympton but exhibit it in quite different manners. A symptom is just a characteristic for example a twitch but how that twitch is manifest is something else. In one person it might be an eye twitch and in another it may be a foot twitch.


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11 Feb 2009, 12:31 pm

There is one thing all autistics have in common, and that would be some sense of social impairment. There is not a single one of us that can live an NT social life totally and completely, even though some of us can act it if we try hard enough, that act wwould eventually crumble when put to the test of time.