"cure autism now" to "stop global warming now

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20 Feb 2009, 8:37 pm

If there were a vote to change "cure autism now" to "stop global warming now", would you support?



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20 Feb 2009, 8:52 pm

Only the later.



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20 Feb 2009, 9:08 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
Only the later.


I concur because personally I don't want to die.



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20 Feb 2009, 9:19 pm

this sort of reminds me of the x-men... you can see the comparison, was it supposed to be a social commentary?

a bunch of individuals with incredible powers, most who would not be able to mingle with society because of it, and all of them not accepted by society.
WE ARE THE NEXT STEP IN EVOLUTION (lol)



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20 Feb 2009, 9:36 pm

ARandomPerson wrote:
this sort of reminds me of the x-men... you can see the comparison, was it supposed to be a social commentary?

a bunch of individuals with incredible powers, most who would not be able to mingle with society because of it, and all of them not accepted by society.
WE ARE THE NEXT STEP IN EVOLUTION (lol)


Evolution isn't always perfect. I think autism is evolution breaking through, and Asperger Syndrome is the most refined form.



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20 Feb 2009, 10:02 pm

When's the last time you saw the Aspie birth rate exceeding NT?

Uh-uh. No, we're not going to win out in natural selection.

However, societies (composed mostly of NTs) with autistic genetics in their gene pools are probably more likely to survive than societies without autistic genetics. Autism is common all around the world, so it's safe to bet it's been with us as long as humans have been around; or else any groups without autistic genetics simply aren't around anymore. Autism runs in the same families as intelligence, creativity, mechanical aptitude, musical aptitude, etc. (also in the same families as mental illnesses, homo-/bi-/a-sexuality, extreme introversion, and eccentricity--that is, all the human extremes).

Autistic people are not superior, as far as natural selection is concerned, because we do not have more babies. However, the traits that are common in autistic people, if introduced into a society's gene pool, will be beneficial.

I think perhaps that the same genetics that make us autistic also make humanity a tool-using, problem-solving, pattern-recognizing species. When concentrated, they cause autism. We're the extreme end of the human spectrum, not a new sort of human.


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20 Feb 2009, 10:17 pm

I agree. I don't wish to be cured, nor do I want people to try to cure their spectrum children. I think that it's a lot more important that we stop global warming.


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20 Feb 2009, 10:23 pm

I don't know if global warming is a good target to aim at. Reducing waste and pollution in general seems to be a better idea; the global warming thing should solve itself if we can do that. Just focusing on global warming might be OK, but we don't really have enough data to know exactly what will help most and whether we can do a lot in the first place; and if we stopped global warming and still managed to pollute our fresh water, run out of usable fuels before we found a sustainable, economically feasible source, or run out of landfill space, we'd still be screwed...

Regarding autism, I wish all the big charities would focus on acceptance, decent education, employment, etc. instead of "OMG U NEEDZ A CURE!1!!"

One thing I am grateful for today: Jerry Lewis does not target autism. *shudder* Can you imagine his pity campaign leveled at us? Euggh.


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21 Feb 2009, 2:34 am

"cure autism now" to "stop global warming now"

It does sound rather odd, it might mean that by curing autism (an impossibility) that gobal warming can be stopped which is plain silly, which was my first thought on seeing the thread.

After reading the OP and the replies, I am thinking that as a race we should try to take better care of the earth. The less we abuse it, then the better it will be for us.

If the "cure autism" lobby was to turn its attention to cleaning up the world then I think it would be a good thing.

I do not support autism supremacists. I view them in the same way as racial supremacists and NT supremacists. I have seen today in this thread some comments which appear to be in favour of AS supremacism.

I think that WP would be a better place without the occasional display of AS supremacism, such ugly occasions could well become the best adverts for some anti AS groups.

Rather than a cure I think some people with AS or autism could be helped with some of the problems associated with their condition. This is a big difference. If you, I or anyone else was able to improve the lives of people with AS & HFA & LFA by reducing the unpleasent effect of some aspects of the conditions then it would be welcomed by many of the people, this would not be a cure in my view.


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