Do you ever think you're mild or okay but aren't?

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21 Feb 2009, 11:38 am

Did you ever consider yourself mild in something but then you got a factual report that said you're not mild?

I knew my concentration and attention wasn't good. Bad, as in below average perhaps I thought. You know, ongoing problems with attention and concentration. When I did tests, I even had surprisingly good concentration. I felt I was doing well! I wondered whether they'd even show any trace my problems.

So then I got the results and they were really not what I expected them to be. They said that my performance was the average performance of someone with more than 70 points less my IQ. Okay, so that's not mild and actually severe. I don't feel severe.


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21 Feb 2009, 11:56 am

Probably you don't feel "severe" because people have been acting like "severe" must mean you should automatically engage in self-pity and feel useless and incapable. You don't, so "severe" doesn't make sense to you.

It's not unknown for people on the spectrum to have some pretty big weaknesses in their skill profiles. They're a lot like learning disabilities--something you're really bad at, which is way below your average skill level. However, most of us learn to compensate for those gaps, usually using things we're very good at--high skill peaks, way higher than your own average, are also common.

I was surprised to learn how badly I did at a shape-matching task during my last round of testing. Apparently this particular test required--you guessed it--concentration. It was a boring, simple test; so my mind just zoned out. I did much better on more complex tests of mathematical, visual, or logical reasoning.


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21 Feb 2009, 12:22 pm

Callista wrote:
Probably you don't feel "severe" because people have been acting like "severe" must mean you should automatically engage in self-pity and feel useless and incapable. You don't, so "severe" doesn't make sense to you.


Ah, yes!

When I think of the word severe by itself, I think it must mean it automatically renders me hopeless at something. That I can't do something and will never be able to learn to get much better.

Which is just not true.

When I eat by myself (like right now), for example, I am distracted several times in just a minute and probably take ages to finish, but I don't got check since when I am eating (I did now for the sake of answering and I started eating at :27 and I am just now :08 about to finish a first small serving, ouch...) and I don't really bother to think about how fast I should be able to eat or give it a thought that my food is turning cold, because this is absolutely normal.

Same goes for dressing and just taking care of normal things. I am certain that there's always a way to get things done, somehow, sometime.

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It was a boring, simple test; so my mind just zoned out. I did much better on more complex tests of mathematical, visual, or logical reasoning.

So my assumption was probably valid... I did as bad in one test, but average to slightly above average on another which was an interesting test. I got better the harder the tasks got, which confused the professional I saw about ADHD to no end.


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21 Feb 2009, 1:06 pm

Yes.



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21 Feb 2009, 2:54 pm

throughout my school years Ive been tested and the results said that in certain areas of ability i was less than average for my age , but did excelllent in another area. I've always thought myself to be mildly affected by autism and that my asperger's wasn't that bad. It was only bad when I was younger and didn't know any better. As I got older I learned to compensate for my lack of social skills and was able to catch up by alot, but still exhibit those traits that set me apart from the rest because like most aspies I can get shy or discourged in social situations. My college counselor seems to think that im mild and that I have a really high level of thinking compared to the majority of students who probably don't tale school as seriously. So it really depends on others personal evealuation of me to really know how bad I'am.



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21 Feb 2009, 2:58 pm

I didn't think my IQ test would show a trace of AS but they said it was likely I had "Asperger's Disorder" but due to not knowing about my childhood, and due to something else, they didn't know for sure. My childhood would have proven to them I was AS, but the other thing (I forget what it is) would have proven that I wasn't.



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21 Feb 2009, 3:05 pm

Well it's all biological that determines if we're autistic or not and some environmantal factors. Me having is still a mystery ,but I'm guessing I get it from my dads side of the family because for sure learning disabilities run in that family and other behavioral problems. For me it's a fluke being autistic. even though I suspect a 3rd cousin from my mom's side of the family is an aspie. my childhood circumstances are unusual and difficult which didn't necessarily lead to my being autistic.



21 Feb 2009, 3:49 pm

I sounded bad and and slow in my records from my school. I sounded slow and someone wrote I have a severe learning disability. I always thought it was mild.


My IQ was bad too but yet my mother told me I scored high on the IQ test. I was labeled multi handicapped in my childhood.



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21 Feb 2009, 4:41 pm

I never considered myself that bad at math, but I ended up with a mathematics disorder diagnosis, which I also find hilarious that such a disorder exists anyways.

I also thought I was better in school than other kids though in high school one day a counselor told me "I think you have some sort of developmental disorder".

My Aspergers diagnosis says its a mild case. However one of my doctors, actually the dr who has been my doctor longer than any other insists I am "severly autistic".



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21 Feb 2009, 5:06 pm

Ticker wrote:
I never considered myself that bad at math, but I ended up with a mathematics disorder diagnosis, which I also find hilarious that such a disorder exists anyways.


Wow, I wonder if I have that too....


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21 Feb 2009, 6:05 pm

Morgana wrote:
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I never considered myself that bad at math, but I ended up with a mathematics disorder diagnosis, which I also find hilarious that such a disorder exists anyways.


Wow, I wonder if I have that too....


Well if you really want to know they can test you for it. Funny thing is when I retested with a neuropsych I studied up on basic math skills on the internet because I felt so bad how poorly I did the year before. I was feeling quite confident I understood the fractions and percentages math after studying because quite frankly I had forgotten all that stuff since high school. She didn't buy the excuse that as an adult I had not needed to use math other than addition and subtraction and measuring which is the honest truth. In college even math was not the same as high school as I had to study things like statistics which is partly theory and with calculations done on a scientific calculator. But back to the story...lol... after all that studying for my re-test I ended up scoring worst the 2nd time around than the 1st. All I can say is maybe my brain injury has something to do with the mathematics disorder as my cognitive function has declined in general.

I think mathematics disorder is stupid though. I mean the DSM is getting ridiculous. Basically if there's something you suck at there is probably a disorder named after it. I seriously think eventually there will be a Computer Disorder for those that suck at computer skills. And where does the diagnosis end? How can you say someone has mathematics disorder when perhaps they were never taught certain math skills? I grew up in a very backwoods kind of town where people to this day are still pretty stupid so how can you call it a disorder when it may have been something you were never exposed too?



21 Feb 2009, 6:05 pm

I suck with math also, does that mean I have a math disorder? :lol:


I can do basic math like adding and subtracting, dividing, multiplication.



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22 Feb 2009, 5:19 am

Maybe if i count using my hobby...

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22 Feb 2009, 8:00 am

I spent 18 years of my life thinking I was perfectly normal, and 5 of those thinking AS was a meaningless label that meant nothing about me.



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22 Feb 2009, 8:47 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
I suck with math also, does that mean I have a math disorder? :lol:


I can do basic math like adding and subtracting, dividing, multiplication.

(In true aspie way, taking it literaly.) I think there is a big differens between being bad at something and being unable to learn it.
Personaly I got stuck on equations, and I've spent about 2 years trying to learn it, but I can't, something isn't clicking. I know what I'm supposed to do and how, but it still don't end up right. :?


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22 Feb 2009, 8:56 am

Silvervarg wrote:
Spokane_Girl wrote:
I suck with math also, does that mean I have a math disorder? :lol:


I can do basic math like adding and subtracting, dividing, multiplication.

(In true aspie way, taking it literaly.) I think there is a big differens between being bad at something and being unable to learn it.
Personaly I got stuck on equations, and I've spent about 2 years trying to learn it, but I can't, something isn't clicking. I know what I'm supposed to do and how, but it still don't end up right. :?


My 13 year old brother is in the 2nd percentile for math, that is what it is like to have a math disorder... I purposely pull out what I do in university math just to bug him sometimes... He also only learns anything one on one, and the school will not provide him with an EA because he is not handicapped enough for one. F***... He is missing roughly half his brain, and is still not handicapped enough for an EA, that just shows what kind of BS goes on in our school systems. To get an EA you pretty much have to be nonverbal and drooling.