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20 Apr 2009, 11:20 pm

You try to tell people this or that or even try to explain this or that and loads of people will make these assumptions without knowing the facts.

Good example is that well last year, ok I am chatting with a girl in Britain who like me has Autism, and she asks me if I have gotten a job yet, and I explain not yet and explain about how i've tried and she accuses me of not trying hard enough.

I try to explain my town is bone dry on jobs, my town lost public busing in 2004, and I even went to the Employment agency and they have barely helped.

This girl spoke about how she has a job and even her Aunt who is on the spectrum has a job too and I was like thinking to myself, her Aunt doesn't live in my town.

You would think that someone who is on the spectrum like me, would understand me when I said what I said, but nope she failed to understand and eventually I blocked her and told her she was ignorant as well.

I won't say any names cause I am honestly not even sure if this person is a member of wrongplanet but I honestly don't think she is.

Ok onto another story too, there was this person who had become my pen pal but later dropped me, well she had asked me this and that and I explained I have Autism, no license to drive and I cannot even afford to own a car anyways right now (otherwise I would have a license and a car), and well this person said it doesn't hurt to ask the Government for help and I was like "hello, I tried asking the Government for help in getting me a job when I went to Government run employment agency and they have not been the greatest of help to me at all."

Government agencies are just as organized as a 3rd world country that if I had the funds to go to a privately run employment agency, I would have done that instead.

I also told the person I would need a factory job to be able to own a car and I have no access to a factory, otherwise I would be working in a factory (I mean it too because I have no credit rating which means I would be unable to take out a loan which means in order to own a car and cover all costs, I would need to be a factory worker like my Father).

And then tonight, I comment in this group on an issue of a problem my girlfriend who is on the spectrum is dealing with, and someone put his nose where it didn't belong and made suggestions that would actually worsen things for my girlfriend.



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20 Apr 2009, 11:30 pm

My guess would be that it's just human nature. If someone doesn't appreciate what you say you shouldn't talk to them.


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20 Apr 2009, 11:33 pm

Yeah I hate it when that happens. I have lots of arguments with my mum like that. I get in these moods that I find hard to snap out of and she says I'm not even trying. I forgot she could read my thoughts. :roll:

And my ex once made these ridiculous assumptions about me not wanting to talk to people and that I didn't want to move to his town because I didn't want to be independent. I was going through social anxiety at the time.
I calmly tried to explain to him but I don't think he cared.



20 Apr 2009, 11:44 pm

I hate it as well. It pisses me off when people don't listen. I think I have pretty much given up on those kind of arguments. I now say "I already told you why." "We have already been there" "I don't need to tell you again" and I say this to put them down "What do you not understand about....are you that stupid to not listen?" Yeah ignorance pisses me off so I put them down.



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20 Apr 2009, 11:50 pm

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I hate it as well. It pisses me off when people don't listen. I think I have pretty much given up on those kind of arguments. I now say "I already told you why." "We have already been there" "I don't need to tell you again" and I say this to put them down "What do you not understand about....are you that stupid to not listen?" Yeah ignorance pisses me off so I put them down.


Does that work?


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21 Apr 2009, 12:04 am

I don't know. I can't read their mind.



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21 Apr 2009, 12:05 am

pensieve wrote:
Yeah I hate it when that happens. I have lots of arguments with my mum like that. I get in these moods that I find hard to snap out of and she says I'm not even trying. I forgot she could read my thoughts. :roll:

And my ex once made these ridiculous assumptions about me not wanting to talk to people and that I didn't want to move to his town because I didn't want to be independent. I was going through social anxiety at the time.
I calmly tried to explain to him but I don't think he cared.


Oh gosh, so reminds me of that there was this person who I later blocked, she actually was on the spectrum herself and she accused me of being afraid to drive a car when I actually possessed a learner's permit in the past.

This person said I did not need to perform onstage because I can record at home and use YouTube and I told her the stage allows me to perform in public and get known (whenever I get a chance to go onstage, I feel like I am actually working in regard to being a musician).

I told the same person about living in farm country and how it sucks and she suggested I do Country songs instead of what I do now with music and I was like, that will not solve the problems I already have with getting gigs (not to mention my voice doesn't fit into Country anyways, my vocals are a bit identical to that of John Lydon who use to go by the stage name of Johnny Rotten, although he is not an influence on me at all by any means as my vocal influences actually came from British singers that were styled in Blues and Heavy Metal, so it's a mere coincidence as to how my singing voice does play out).

But yeah I don't think a guy who sounds like Johnny Rotten would cut it as a Country singer when a guy who sounds like Johnny Rotten would cut it better as a Punk Rock or Indie Rock or Alternative Rock or Heavy Metal singer.

That guy who sounds like Johnny Rotten is of course me.



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21 Apr 2009, 12:10 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
I now say "I already told you why." "We have already been there" "I don't need to tell you again" and I say this to put them down "What do you not understand about....are you that stupid to not listen?"


That sounds like words I need to start using, thanks



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21 Apr 2009, 2:37 am

Oh, I just hate when that happens, because I sometimes get pissed off and reply in an aggressive manner. What is so hard to understand?


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21 Apr 2009, 2:52 am

RPM wrote:
You try to tell people this or that or even try to explain this or that and loads of people will make these assumptions without knowing the facts.

Good example is that well last year, ok I am chatting with a girl in Britain who like me has Autism, and she asks me if I have gotten a job yet, and I explain not yet and explain about how i've tried and she accuses me of not trying hard enough.

I try to explain my town is bone dry on jobs, my town lost public busing in 2004, and I even went to the Employment agency and they have barely helped.

This girl spoke about how she has a job and even her Aunt who is on the spectrum has a job too and I was like thinking to myself, her Aunt doesn't live in my town.

You would think that someone who is on the spectrum like me, would understand me when I said what I said, but nope she failed to understand and eventually I blocked her and told her she was ignorant as well.

I won't say any names cause I am honestly not even sure if this person is a member of wrongplanet but I honestly don't think she is.

Ok onto another story too, there was this person who had become my pen pal but later dropped me, well she had asked me this and that and I explained I have Autism, no license to drive and I cannot even afford to own a car anyways right now (otherwise I would have a license and a car), and well this person said it doesn't hurt to ask the Government for help and I was like "hello, I tried asking the Government for help in getting me a job when I went to Government run employment agency and they have not been the greatest of help to me at all."

Government agencies are just as organized as a 3rd world country that if I had the funds to go to a privately run employment agency, I would have done that instead.

I also told the person I would need a factory job to be able to own a car and I have no access to a factory, otherwise I would be working in a factory (I mean it too because I have no credit rating which means I would be unable to take out a loan which means in order to own a car and cover all costs, I would need to be a factory worker like my Father).

And then tonight, I comment in this group on an issue of a problem my girlfriend who is on the spectrum is dealing with, and someone put his nose where it didn't belong and made suggestions that would actually worsen things for my girlfriend.


While you might want to be careful who you talk with, I can't really argue with someone who calls your lack of work due to "jobs being bone dry" an excuse. Reason being, I agree with her.

Allow me to explain my take:

The Great Depression had 25& unemployment at the very worst; gee, I was suggested that it was worse than that, but no it wasn't...which meant 75% were still employed.

We've been dealing with bad economies since Day 1; it's just part of human nature, it's how humans like it..they just pretend not to.

Now, take note of a recent saying I've come up with..which my boss loved:

A bad economy is basically where you're no longer getting paid to sit on your @$$ and do nothing.



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21 Apr 2009, 3:41 am

^^ I believe I too have very similar problems with my parents. They often accuse me of wishing to argue with them, whereas I believe I simply wish to ask questions, and then they often begin shouting at me and to 'leave it alone'. This makes me very confused I believe. For instance, this morning, my parents had taken my happy kitty, Plato to the veterinarian, and we have been informed that he is overweight and therefore we require to use special food to allow him to lose some of his happy weight. I believe I happily agreed that we required to feed him less food. My mother also purchased a spray so that Plato would stop spraying urine in the house. I was worried that this may make Nell (our other female kitty) and Plato uncomfortable. Perhaps this was mean of me to express this. My father then stated rather aggressively, that I should save my money so that I could pay for the vet when Plato gains Diabetes. I was rather confused by this as this seems to imply that I did not wish to assist Plato with his happy little Diet. I therefore rather panicked and kept asking why father said this. He then became even more angry and shouted me to just 'shut up' (or perhaps another phrase similar to this one). I believe this was my fault, however I am not certain why this persists in happening.

Also, concerning your work, RPM, I believe it is not nice for individuals to assume that you are not attempting to search for a happy job, expecially due to the fact that you state that you are searching for one.



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21 Apr 2009, 3:58 am

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While you might want to be careful who you talk with, I can't really argue with someone who calls your lack of work due to "jobs being bone dry" an excuse. Reason being, I agree with her.

Allow me to explain my take:

The Great Depression had 25& unemployment at the very worst; gee, I was suggested that it was worse than that, but no it wasn't...which meant 75% were still employed.

We've been dealing with bad economies since Day 1; it's just part of human nature, it's how humans like it..they just pretend not to.

Now, take note of a recent saying I've come up with..which my boss loved:

A bad economy is basically where you're no longer getting paid to sit on your @$$ and do nothing.

You don't really know him or his situation. I've been looking for work for a number of years. I never can get past the interview. I live in a small town that has had high unemployment before all these people started to get laid off from their jobs.
I've watched my mum struggle through unemployment. She works now, because she has a pretty good resume.
My sister recently got fired too so she's struggling with looking for a job and living on her own in the city.
I don't have that many skills and where I have skills they aren't offering jobs for it. What they do offer jobs for I have no experience in.
And just because you have AS and work and other have AS and work, doesn't mean someone else with AS will get a job and get to keep it. Some people here have mild AS and some more severe. I fall into the moderate/severe category, but I'm still looking for work even though I think no one will give me a job.



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21 Apr 2009, 4:08 am

Yeah I get so annoyed when this happens. It's so hard to communicate what I'm really thinking to other people, and then when I finally get it out they don't listen or don't let me finish before arguing with me or whatever. It's like they don't actually want to learn about what I think or consider my point of view, they just want to prove that once again they are right. They are just looking for their own self-validation. I don't know why I bother, sometimes. Actually, I don't bother most of the time.



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21 Apr 2009, 8:58 am

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RPM wrote:
You try to tell people this or that or even try to explain this or that and loads of people will make these assumptions without knowing the facts.

Good example is that well last year, ok I am chatting with a girl in Britain who like me has Autism, and she asks me if I have gotten a job yet, and I explain not yet and explain about how i've tried and she accuses me of not trying hard enough.

I try to explain my town is bone dry on jobs, my town lost public busing in 2004, and I even went to the Employment agency and they have barely helped.

This girl spoke about how she has a job and even her Aunt who is on the spectrum has a job too and I was like thinking to myself, her Aunt doesn't live in my town.

You would think that someone who is on the spectrum like me, would understand me when I said what I said, but nope she failed to understand and eventually I blocked her and told her she was ignorant as well.

I won't say any names cause I am honestly not even sure if this person is a member of wrongplanet but I honestly don't think she is.

Ok onto another story too, there was this person who had become my pen pal but later dropped me, well she had asked me this and that and I explained I have Autism, no license to drive and I cannot even afford to own a car anyways right now (otherwise I would have a license and a car), and well this person said it doesn't hurt to ask the Government for help and I was like "hello, I tried asking the Government for help in getting me a job when I went to Government run employment agency and they have not been the greatest of help to me at all."

Government agencies are just as organized as a 3rd world country that if I had the funds to go to a privately run employment agency, I would have done that instead.

I also told the person I would need a factory job to be able to own a car and I have no access to a factory, otherwise I would be working in a factory (I mean it too because I have no credit rating which means I would be unable to take out a loan which means in order to own a car and cover all costs, I would need to be a factory worker like my Father).

And then tonight, I comment in this group on an issue of a problem my girlfriend who is on the spectrum is dealing with, and someone put his nose where it didn't belong and made suggestions that would actually worsen things for my girlfriend.


While you might want to be careful who you talk with, I can't really argue with someone who calls your lack of work due to "jobs being bone dry" an excuse. Reason being, I agree with her.

Allow me to explain my take:

The Great Depression had 25& unemployment at the very worst; gee, I was suggested that it was worse than that, but no it wasn't...which meant 75% were still employed.

We've been dealing with bad economies since Day 1; it's just part of human nature, it's how humans like it..they just pretend not to.

Now, take note of a recent saying I've come up with..which my boss loved:

A bad economy is basically where you're no longer getting paid to sit on your @$$ and do nothing.


Excuse me but I have tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried to get a job, I have handed in applications in English, but places in my crappy town have not even bothered to give me a lousy interview.

I did not sit on my butt the whole time of not having a job, I have busted my hardened butt tryng to get a job.

Go visit my crappy town please and try applying for a job there and you will learn my difficulties.

You are another person who is failing to listen and your English is worse than that of illegal alien drug dealers that steal jobs, can't speak English, and expect us to learn how to order Burritos in Spanish.



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21 Apr 2009, 10:38 am

TheDoctor82 wrote:
RPM wrote:
You try to tell people this or that or even try to explain this or that and loads of people will make these assumptions without knowing the facts.

Good example is that well last year, ok I am chatting with a girl in Britain who like me has Autism, and she asks me if I have gotten a job yet, and I explain not yet and explain about how i've tried and she accuses me of not trying hard enough.

I try to explain my town is bone dry on jobs, my town lost public busing in 2004, and I even went to the Employment agency and they have barely helped.

This girl spoke about how she has a job and even her Aunt who is on the spectrum has a job too and I was like thinking to myself, her Aunt doesn't live in my town.

You would think that someone who is on the spectrum like me, would understand me when I said what I said, but nope she failed to understand and eventually I blocked her and told her she was ignorant as well.

I won't say any names cause I am honestly not even sure if this person is a member of wrongplanet but I honestly don't think she is.

Ok onto another story too, there was this person who had become my pen pal but later dropped me, well she had asked me this and that and I explained I have Autism, no license to drive and I cannot even afford to own a car anyways right now (otherwise I would have a license and a car), and well this person said it doesn't hurt to ask the Government for help and I was like "hello, I tried asking the Government for help in getting me a job when I went to Government run employment agency and they have not been the greatest of help to me at all."

Government agencies are just as organized as a 3rd world country that if I had the funds to go to a privately run employment agency, I would have done that instead.

I also told the person I would need a factory job to be able to own a car and I have no access to a factory, otherwise I would be working in a factory (I mean it too because I have no credit rating which means I would be unable to take out a loan which means in order to own a car and cover all costs, I would need to be a factory worker like my Father).

And then tonight, I comment in this group on an issue of a problem my girlfriend who is on the spectrum is dealing with, and someone put his nose where it didn't belong and made suggestions that would actually worsen things for my girlfriend.


While you might want to be careful who you talk with, I can't really argue with someone who calls your lack of work due to "jobs being bone dry" an excuse. Reason being, I agree with her.

Allow me to explain my take:

The Great Depression had 25& unemployment at the very worst; gee, I was suggested that it was worse than that, but no it wasn't...which meant 75% were still employed.

We've been dealing with bad economies since Day 1; it's just part of human nature, it's how humans like it..they just pretend not to.

Now, take note of a recent saying I've come up with..which my boss loved:

A bad economy is basically where you're no longer getting paid to sit on your @$$ and do nothing.


Yea but for the population of people with disabilities the unemployment rate was probably close to 100% during the great depression. You're displaying the exact annoying condescending attitude that so many of us can't stand.