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LipstickKiller
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18 Apr 2009, 12:03 pm

Does stimming exclude Asperger's and put you in HFA instead or is it only the language development that makes the distinction across the different kinds of diagnostic sets? Is stimming common with AS? I think I read somewhere it's typically associated with other types of autism.



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18 Apr 2009, 12:27 pm

My sense is that it is common in AS. There have been a number of threads on the topic, and it seems that a number of aspies here (myself included) stim.



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18 Apr 2009, 12:57 pm

People with Aspergers stim as well. That is one of the things that we have in common with people with HFA and autism is that we have stimulations, sensory issues and also repetitive movements like rocking. I mostly have either physical stimulation(rocking, and other movements) and/or mental(always talking, thinking 24/7, anything logical and/or medical related topics I always have in my head). I also need sensory stimulation too, but only at certain times of the day(bedtime, when I am bored) and constantly during stress.
Usually no matter what I do, I need physical and mental stimulation, every second of my waking hours. When I sleep, sensory stimulation(sleeping with my stuffed animals on my head, face covering my facial area, needing to be fully covered head to toe with covers over my face as well, even in the summer, etc.). In some instances, I need sensory stimulation 24/7 when it come to my body,not just because I need comfortable clothing, but to stimulate parts of the body to feel comfort, safe, and to help me be able to focus with my day.(like wearing certain materials to give me a hug-like sensations to calm me, always wearing something on my feet even during warm weather so I can feel safe and comfort).



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18 Apr 2009, 1:49 pm

Also according to what I read, 10% of non-autistic kids stim. And weird as it may be, I stim a lot and it increased with my anti-psychotic medications.


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19 Apr 2009, 1:18 am

As much as I've heard about this, I find it strange that I don't stim. I guess not all of us do it.


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19 Apr 2009, 1:26 am

Motor mannerisms are rarely seen in typical AS, and they're not that evident in HFA too (except for childhood).

It's a LFA thing for the most part in adults, but those with more severe HFA do such too.

This is going by the text, rather than anecdotes.



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19 Apr 2009, 1:31 am

Not all do.
I stim a lot. Its intensity is correllated closely with my anxielty levels. and for some AS/autistic people, depression and high anxiety are common co-morbids.
I have been working with an autism specialist the past few months and i am really trying to reduce my anxiety. The strategies we have implemented are working and this means i feel calmer and i also seem to be stimming less than usual.
when my anxiety is high I pace in public , thrum fingers and tap my hand on my chest and also on my forehead and i have a strange shoulder and back twist that i do. It is actually very distressing because i worry it makes me look like even more of a flip than i already am.

So, now i am implementing an anxiety reducing programme into my life.
i do the following:

wear an ipod out and about to reduce sensory overload.
wear sunglasses everywhere to reduce light sensitivities. and a hat too outdoors.
exercise. swim and incorporate short walks into my day to reduce meltdowns.
reduce caffeine - coffee only in the mornings.
diaphragmatic breathing exercises.
time out alone when needed (which is most of the time :lol: )
as much time with special interest as i can.
have a list and schedule to live by daily.
down time after social contact.

My stimming has been reduced a fair bit. IT still gets bad if i have to go out and about and especially when i leave the assuredness of my fairly rigid little life. It's a good thing to feel a bit calmer at times. But i get frustrated by how high-maintenance I am....



19 Apr 2009, 2:34 am

Stimming is part of AS. It's in the criteria for it too even though they don't use the words "Stimming."

I do stim and other times I do not. I've noticed none aspies stim too but theirs is more acceptable than ours so I learned that;s what the difference is in aspie stimming and none aspie stimming.



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19 Apr 2009, 3:04 am

Maybe then my stimming isn't really noticeable. I do yawn a lot. Maybe for me, its yawning. Though I've always thought it was because I'm tired.


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19 Apr 2009, 6:53 am

I have the AS dx though maybe I'm HFA. Or PDD-NOS. Or just plain AS.

I can however control stimming for the most part, until I'm so stressed that I can't keep up with my whole I'm-not-freakin'-obvious façade anymore.

I recently noticed that that feeling that I get daily and often is the need to spin (yay, yay, nothing like spinning), hum, sway, rock, jump - which is basically stimming, just not the type of stuff that's so typical for AS.


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19 Apr 2009, 8:51 am

My most-common stim is rocking when I'm upset or very tired. I also wring my hands when I'm having a really bad panic attack. I also usually listen to a particular song, over and over again, for hours at a time when I'm upset and/or anxious. It's a song from the soundtrack to A Beautiful Mind, so it's related to a special interest of mine, and it's a good song to rock to.
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19 Apr 2009, 1:07 pm

I rock, but very small movements, hum and whistle all the time, move my fingers in different patterns, move my toes up and down, bounce my legs, bite the inside of my lip, clank my teeth rhythmically.

When I was younger I would chew the insides of my cheeks to the point of bleeding.

I also have trichotillomania, but I'm not sure if that's really stimming.

I noticed just the other day that when I'm crying hard I bite the skin on my knuckles.

But do I have AS or HFA? Sometimes I've thought maybe it's Tourette's and OCD. definitely have a lot of anxiety and I've been medicated off and on for the past 10 years. :(



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19 Apr 2009, 1:42 pm

Well, I rock, but very small movements, move my toes up and down and around, bounce my legs. When I was younger I would swing my legs, A LOT of kids do THAT though.

BTW I have a feeling that maybe some LFA, etc feel they HAVE to do it. Also, they probably wouldn't care. I can certainly stop, and DO care.

BTW for daniel, Aspergers DSM...II (C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)



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19 Apr 2009, 3:29 pm

LipstickKiller wrote:
I rock, but very small movements, hum and whistle all the time, move my fingers in different patterns, move my toes up and down, bounce my legs, bite the inside of my lip, clank my teeth rhythmically.

When I was younger I would chew the insides of my cheeks to the point of bleeding.

I noticed just the other day that when I'm crying hard I bite the skin on my knuckles.

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I do all of those, except for the rocking (usually)


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19 Apr 2009, 5:16 pm

Sora wrote:
I can however control stimming for the most part, until I'm so stressed that I can't keep up with my whole I'm-not-freakin'-obvious façade anymore.

I recently noticed that that feeling that I get daily and often is the need to spin (yay, yay, nothing like spinning), hum, sway, rock, jump - which is basically stimming, just not the type of stuff that's so typical for AS.


First part: The same here.
Second part: The last couple of days, I have had a strong urge to spin.



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19 Apr 2009, 5:49 pm

I am DEFINITELY not HFA and I do it a lot. Usually in the form of making rhythms on things with my hands, pulling back my fingers, rolling my hair into dreadlock-like coils, or playing incessantly with my mouth piercing.

For some reason I do it more when my emotions are in any way high. I remember dancing at a nightclub once and realizing that I was flicking at my lip ring with my tongue, and doing it so incessantly that it looked like I had a neural problem. Like an involuntary tremor.


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