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26 Apr 2009, 1:08 am

so i dont feel any pain anymore or anything on top of my head, its completely numb, i put my head through a wall on friday morning with a mini hole size of my forehead basically and now today at 2am i put a huge hole in the wall size of a basketball, why because my sleep pattern keeps getting messed up, also slammed my head into the computer screen, i broke the last screen :x . I dont feel anymore pain towards my head, idk if thats good, idk if anybody can tell me if they had a similiar experience would love to hear from ya, but its getting to the point idc anymore what i headbang against or stopping it 8O , sad i know, but ive done so much to help me stop, and put so much money into it which has helped so much but im at a loss for words on what to do anymore :oops: . anybody else know why im losing the feeling in my head? or had an experience like this? any other serious headbangers who can help me out?


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26 Apr 2009, 1:25 am

Uuuh, no, I can't say that I've gotten that. I headbutt with some of my friends HARD (I can do it harder than any of them, and a lot of them are pretty tough) and I've never lost feeling. Have you ever gotten a concussion? (I don't really know anything about it, just thought it might be a relevant question.)



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26 Apr 2009, 1:33 am

never got that but i think it would be good to keep break from head banging when ever u can :?


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26 Apr 2009, 1:34 am

never got that but i think it would be good to keep break from head banging when ever u can :?
good luck for getting feeling of your head back soon :D


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26 Apr 2009, 1:39 am

Feeling on the top of your head is from...the trigeminal nerve IIRC, which is a cranial nerve.

Blunt trauma, like banging your head with enough force to break things, could probably cause damage to such.

Probably wise to wear a helmet.



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26 Apr 2009, 8:08 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Feeling on the top of your head is from...the trigeminal nerve IIRC, which is a cranial nerve.

Blunt trauma, like banging your head with enough force to break things, could probably cause damage to such.

Probably wise to wear a helmet.


Age1600,

I;m sure daniel is right about the trigeminal nerve, because the ophthalmic portion includes the area age1600 talks about.

If damage happens in the wrong way, you COULD have fake stimulation. I forget the name for that, but it could trigger intense pain almost anywhere on your head from your scalp, to the jaw. The one nerve has three branches, and that is how it got its name. And the part that senses your head also senses the upper eyelids and goes so neep into your head that it even includes part of the covering of the brain.



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26 Apr 2009, 8:22 am

2ukenkerl wrote:
I;m sure daniel is right about the trigeminal nerve, because the ophthalmic portion includes the area age1600 talks about.


I looked it up for my mother awhile ago, as she was having altered sensations on her forehead and scalp due to her peripheral neuropathy, as well as experiencing trigeminal neuralgia (from which I knew the trigeminal nerve controlled the sensations on the face, but I didn't know about other parts of the head). It's CIDP in her case, which generally has more symptoms than just having a numb head.

The back of the head is a spinal nerve IIRC.

OP: If you've experienced this before, i.e., you've always had hyposensitivity to some extent on your head, it could very well be the Autism, or it could be something else.



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26 Apr 2009, 8:47 am

Age1600 wrote:
anybody else know why im losing the feeling in my head? or had an experience like this? any other serious headbangers who can help me out?



I can't help you with the physically banging your head part other than to say please stop banging your head. Sticking a screwdriver inside your ear is simililarly not advised.

I suggest you start to focus on non-physical ways to impact your brain. I do have issues with my brain feeling so crappy I can't sleep and stuff. Especially if there is stress. But physically assulting your brain is only adding stress.

this info is from research and AS books. It isn't voodoo. But not every brain is the same. Things I suggest you try:

-- using physical exercise to release endorphins.
-- using hot sauce food to release endorphins.
-- Dark chocolate, the darker the better. A few squares of 70% dark chocolate is pretty powerful. Try to not use too much, as sugar and insulin can become their own problem.
-- sunlight impacts serotonin levels. Even on days you don't feel good, try to go out for 45 minutes in the sun and watch the trees or something. Or if you are in sun a lot, try reducing it. See if that night you notice improvement.

Here are many tips: http://borntoexplore.org/neurochem.htm



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26 Apr 2009, 8:51 am

Head banging is usually a sensory integration disorder thingy, which is typcial of Autism rather than Asperger's.

The only thing that'll stop it is restraint or heavy medication. Both kinda suck.



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26 Apr 2009, 8:57 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Feeling on the top of your head is from...the trigeminal nerve IIRC, which is a cranial nerve.

Blunt trauma, like banging your head with enough force to break things, could probably cause damage to such.

Probably wise to wear a helmet.

am thought tejh trigeminal nerve only runs down the side of the face and has a few branches towards the mouth/under eye,near jaw.. [am have trigeminal neuralgia,and at its worst the left cheek will go red along the exact line of the nerve].
Definitely agrees on helmet.

Age,
am can remember asking this-but not what answer had given so sorry for repeating,but see if would be able to get mattresses attached to the walls where are the most common for head banging on [this is what staff did for am before the OT installed specialist padding,they installed that on the walls on a backing of wood].

Make sure rooms are not overloaded with stuff,bedroom [if that is the room where are in the most] be as minimal with stuff as possible,buy a cabinet [the type where the PC and monitor goes into,and doors close on it,bit like a wardrobe but built for PC using]-have someone bolt it to the wall in a space that is out of the way.

Get an ice hockey helmet,am use a [not top of the range] nike-bauer one which has prevented hi,concussion,and kos in am -padded helmets do not protect as well against strong banging,but they should not be wore constantly, because the weight and pressure causes deep vice like headaches.
Problem with these helmets is they have ear guards so are not able to wear ear defenders at the same time if are out,but decent ear plugs are worth the sacrifice.

it would be really worth getting some medication as well,find out all the exact causes,so can work to helping each one,as meds do not stop head banging for sensory seeking,stimming,trying to communicate, overload etc,unless want to be completely zombified and not know what day it is.
The autism specialist and neuro have got should have been working on all this,and the OT should be putting the needed adaptions in the house [then again,am speaking as someone who gets it all free and through funding so am know it may not be easy in NJ].

Failing that,get those guys on that extreme makeover/home edition? programme to come and makeover the house.


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26 Apr 2009, 8:57 am

Danielismyname wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
I;m sure daniel is right about the trigeminal nerve, because the ophthalmic portion includes the area age1600 talks about.


I looked it up for my mother awhile ago, as she was having altered sensations on her forehead and scalp due to her peripheral neuropathy, as well as experiencing trigeminal neuralgia (from which I knew the trigeminal nerve controlled the sensations on the face, but I didn't know about other parts of the head). It's CIDP in her case, which generally has more symptoms than just having a numb head.

The back of the head is a spinal nerve IIRC.

OP: If you've experienced this before, i.e., you've always had hyposensitivity to some extent on your head, it could very well be the Autism, or it could be something else.


It covers at least the front half of the head, and the scalp. I am not sure about the other parts. What it DOES cover is quite large though. It even covers the suinuses and part of the nose. the lower jaw, etc... Of course, there ARE other nerves for like the uppeer teeth, etc...



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26 Apr 2009, 5:37 pm

thank you all for ur tips and advice and help, so glad to hear from all of u, were going to fix up the wall again to get rid of the holes, we've tried restraint, medications do nothing but make me bang more, lately even if i stub my toe which was the one headbanging incident i mentioned i jus slammed my head through the wall, been banging it on everything, even on the street, idk during the moments if im lookin for that stimulation idk, but i do know when upset thats the first thing i do. I'm going to try a helmet again, but last time i jus banged into the helmet until i broke the helmet, then freaked out cuz a helmet was on my head, im going to invest in to either this---> http://www.hammacher.com/publish/76528.asp or a weighted hat in the near future right now i dont have the money. What does everybody think? Either way thanks for everybodies replies, could anybody also tell me more about cranial damage? i never ever get headaches, my head is like a steel rock, but im much more dizzy and losing my balance all the time now.


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26 Apr 2009, 6:09 pm

Age1600 wrote:
thank you all for ur tips and advice and help, so glad to hear from all of u, were going to fix up the wall again to get rid of the holes, we've tried restraint, medications do nothing but make me bang more, lately even if i stub my toe which was the one headbanging incident i mentioned i jus slammed my head through the wall, been banging it on everything, even on the street, idk during the moments if im lookin for that stimulation idk, but i do know when upset thats the first thing i do. I'm going to try a helmet again, but last time i jus banged into the helmet until i broke the helmet, then freaked out cuz a helmet was on my head, im going to invest in to either this---> http://www.hammacher.com/publish/76528.asp or a weighted hat in the near future right now i dont have the money. What does everybody think? Either way thanks for everybodies replies, could anybody also tell me more about cranial damage? i never ever get headaches, my head is like a steel rock, but im much more dizzy and losing my balance all the time now.


The brain supposedly has NO ability to feel pain! The trigeminal nerve merely allows sensation on a COVERING of the brain. The brain CAN easily be damaged. concussion is the term given to a condition where there is known brain injury stemming from head trauma. The dizzyness and loss of balance is caused by either middle ear, or brain damage or injury, or something similar. Basically, the inner ear has mechanisms that are almost like a mercury switch on a thermostat, and part of the brain uses that to determine where you are. If it shifts at the wrong time, you will lose your balance. If it keeps shifting, or shifts out of line with your movement, and your brain can't straighten out the references, you will be dizzy. The SAME thing CAN happen from a change in blood pressure, but that is because there won't be enough energy in your brain to do what is necessary, so it is almost like a temporary kind of brain damage. After all, your computer won't work well if IT loses power either. Likewise, an inner ear infection or sickness affecting the brain can cause it.

Anyway, I am with everyone else. You sound like a nice person. PLEASE take it easy on yourself!